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    Default Re: Attorney General Gonzales to Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Karrde View Post
    Supposed Democrat Supporters, now correct me if I am wrong, but did you not say that these prosecutors are supposed to be

    "non-partisan and independent in every aspect from political parties"

    If they were Democrat Supporters then how is that non partisan and independent of every aspect from political parties?

    So now we are going back to how he abused the office, he fired attornies, who even by your own admission, were not doing what they were supposed to be doing by being partisan.
    I only put in supposed, because the only people who called them Democrat supporters were the same Republicans that complained about them after they couldn't get their own way.

    As for those replaced, so far all I can find is interm attornies, and no signs of attornies that have actually replaced them and gone through Congress. So can you show me these Prosecutors names that are "loyal Bushies" and how they got through Congressional approval?
    I admit that I have misread something and misled you, for which I apologise. The 'loyal Bushies' is a quote from Gonzales' chief-of-staff, Kyle Sampson, who coordinated the firings of the Prosecutors due to them pissing off several Republicans with the intention of installing loyal Bushies, but he resigned before completeing his assignment. Still, the intention was to remove prosecutors that were not loyal to Bush and the Republican party and install those that are.

    Oh yes becuase Presidents keep all of the previous Presidents appointments. And now Bush was buddies with Enron? What next? Bush caused the WTC attacks? And if Pat Wood allowed Enron to do what ever they wanted then he didn't do that good of a job seeing how just two years into Bush's term Enron went under.
    It has been proven time and time again that Bush and many members of his cabinet had personal links and relationships with the top members of Enron, many of which gave funding to Bush in exchange for letting Enron run its own course.

    About the Presidential appointments, the FERC is independent from the DoE and the White House entirely and so Herbert was not a presidential appointment anyway. Bush got him fired and replaced because he controlled the DoE, which has the power to remove and replace the heads of independent commissions.

    The reason Enron went under had nothing to do with the fact that they were allowed a free run of the energy market, but because they committed fraud on a gargantuan scale. Not even Pat Wood could protect it when they got busted for that.
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    Default Re: Attorney General Gonzales to Resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Heald View Post
    I only put in supposed, because the only people who called them Democrat supporters were the same Republicans that complained about them after they couldn't get their own way.
    Well how about we call them something than Democrat Supporters? I mean if we are going to have a debate how about we final a wording we can both agree on. How about "Prosecutors that were laxed on Voter Frad". We can call them PTWLVF. Although that doesnt slip off the tongue so easily, how about "Prosecutors that were not doing their job". We could call them PTWDTJ.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heald View Post
    I admit that I have misread something and misled you, for which I apologise. The 'loyal Bushies' is a quote from Gonzales' chief-of-staff, Kyle Sampson, who coordinated the firings of the Prosecutors due to them pissing off several Republicans with the intention of installing loyal Bushies, but he resigned before completeing his assignment. Still, the intention was to remove prosecutors that were not loyal to Bush and the Republican party and install those that are.
    Ahh I see that put a new spin on it, I mean Kyle Sampson not Bush or Gonzales has the final say on what to do with these Prosecutors, and approved the fireings. And these poor Prosecutors, I mean they were only NOT doing their job.

    Anyway I think we have really dwelled down to a very small tit for tat debate about a non subject. I mean neither of us really know why they were fired. But we can both agree that no crime was comitted here, and that Bush has used a power that has been used to fire thousands upon thousands of Prosecutors for how ever many Presidents.
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