View Poll Results: Who do you want to win the 2008 U.S. Presidential Primaries?

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  • Democrat - Hillary Clinton

    8 21.62%
  • Democrat - John Edwards

    4 10.81%
  • Democrat - Barack Obama

    15 40.54%
  • Republican - Rudy Giuliani

    1 2.70%
  • Republican - Mike Huckabee

    4 10.81%
  • Republican - John McCain

    5 13.51%
  • Republican - Ron Paul

    3 8.11%
  • Republican - Mitt Romney

    3 8.11%
  • Switzerland - Swiss Cheese

    7 18.92%
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    Obama wins in SC, regaining momentum

    With an extraordinarily huge victory, Barack Obama has taken back a measure of control over the Democratic race and now looks like a daunting foe for Clinton on Super Tuesday.

    I think one particular statistic is important for both parties:

    The exit polls showed the economy was the most important issue in the race. About one quarter picked health care. And only one in five said it was the war in Iraq, underscoring the extent to which the once-dominant issue has faded in the face of financial concerns.
    If the war in Iraq is no longer an important issue on the left side of the aisle, that could spell trouble for the Democrats. That has been a sort of rallying point for the party over the past few years; if they no longer have that driving force to motivate voters, the general election could be quite difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_pikachu View Post
    If the war in Iraq is no longer an important issue on the left side of the aisle, that could spell trouble for the Democrats. That has been a sort of rallying point for the party over the past few years; if they no longer have that driving force to motivate voters, the general election could be quite difficult.
    The war in Iraq has stopped being a issue ever since around October, when good news started drifting out of Iraq and news stories could no longer deny that the surge was working and Iraq was stabalizing, people stopped caring about it.

    One thing I am surprised about that poll is that usually Illegal Immigration takes a first or second place vote as the most important issue, up there with the economy. I guess South Carolina is far enough away from the border not to be truely effected by it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Karrde View Post
    One thing I am surprised about that poll is that usually Illegal Immigration takes a first or second place vote as the most important issue, up there with the economy. I guess South Carolina is far enough away from the border not to be truely effected by it.
    You make a good point, but keep in mind that illegal immigration is more of a Republican issue than a Democratic one. On the left side, it isn't viewed as nearly as much of a problem as it is on the right.
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    Being a New Zealander I've been watching Fox News. While we have CNN and BBC they're just so boring to listen to so I prefer Fox News. Our national broadcaster has their correspondent in the United States while their competitor is having ABC and CBS news items on the election. Thus my news gathering is limited and am too busy to read newspapers.

    But I like Clinton, I think she would be good for the international community and I just see Obama as representing one of those figures in Frank Capra films of the 1940s such as "Meet John Doe", who rally the crowds but ultimately ends up just like any of them. John Edwards is a fool.

    On the republican side, I don't get Huckabee, in NZ he wouldn't stand a chance, like any other religious person. We don't like religion in politics. I couldn't even tell you what this guy stands for it isn't very clear. Romney could win the republican party nominee, but I don't like him. Hes taken the ultimate u-turn and I don't think he is electable. Guliani was so arrogant when he first announced hes going for the Presidency, his failure to even get third placements in the early primaries is really pathetic and I love John McCain.

    Which, is funny because McCain is in favour of the war but I think hes principled far beyond any other republican candidate.

    So we have a Clinton V McCain President race, I want Clinton to win, I think she is winnable even though she has so many negatives against her.

    I don't get why Obama continues to be treated so well in the media, he is getting a free ride, I see him continuing to get a free ride, and like I said earlier, hes like those 40s era films where they feared facism, where a normal person rallys the people but then has facist tendencies, hes a good talker, but is he trustworthy? I just don't think so.

    Watching Fox News is funny because they say their fair and balanced, but everything from Fox and Friends to the Big Story, Bill O'reily, Hannity and Colmes has negative things about Clinton and Hannity may pretend to like McCain but his real venom does show. They also tend to be way too simplistic in some of their analogy but its watchable, I can't stand the thing yet I watch it constantly.

    I look to McCain picking up the major primary votes Feb 5th and the same for Clinton. But to be honest I don't totally get America's primary contests.

    In the democratic primaries how are they distributed, and are some primaries both democratic and republic distributed by certain areas in america's state. I suppose I could look it up but whatever.

    Karrde is illegal immigration even a republican issue anymore? It seems to be republican issues are the economy and Hilary Clinton. It won't even be a national issue I don't think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firepokemon View Post
    Karrde is illegal immigration even a republican issue anymore? It seems to be republican issues are the economy and Hilary Clinton. It won't even be a national issue I don't think.
    Illegal Immigration ranks as Number 2 on the Republican issues. I guess I forgot that there would be two reasons why it would be a Democrat Issue. A: Most Democrats live in the North where Illegal Immigrants is just starting to reach them. B: Democrats are hoping to legalize a majority of the Illegal Immigrants in hopes that they will vote Democrat. Which is why things like a Boarder Fence, and Voter ID cards which would curb Illegal voting, are met with stiff opposition by the Democrats.

    Also I think you underestimate the hatred for Hillary Clinton. She gets over 50% in the negatives and that is before the Republicans remind the nation of what it was really like during the Clinton Administration.

    In other words, if Hillary were nominated, for every Democrat that comes to vote for her ( And dont count on the Black Vote, the biggest vote for Democrats ). You will get atleast 2 Republicans to vote for her.

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