2008 U.S. Presidential Election - Primaries

[Clark]

Its not the schools fault completely that the kids don't learn. Its their upbringing and parents. They should try to implement better ways to set better examples for the children, so they possibly could do more with their lives than sell drugs or whatever else poor people do other than cause global warming.

[Roy Karrde]

Its not the schools fault completely that the kids don't learn. Its their upbringing and parents. They should try to implement better ways to set better examples for the children, so they possibly could do more with their lives than sell drugs or whatever else poor people do other than cause global warming.

You're right in the fact that it is the parents fault to make them study after school. Yet during school, and during study periods, it is the school's fault. Yet the school's continue to fail them by teaching to the lowest common denominator. If we want them to improve their lives and not sell drugs, then we need to force the schools to work on these students. If not they will never do well on the SAT Test or any other college placement test and remain where they are.

Then tell me why these schools that actually try to pick up still fall back.

Examples? Proof? Becuase I am sure I can bring in just as many schools that have pushed themselves to succeed.

It's because the students who are pushed don't care after being pushed long enough.

Much of that is their teacher's fault for not inspiring their students. If the teachers cannot get the kids to work and bring themselves up, the students will remain in a rut.

Not trying to be prejudiced in any form, but the good majority of these trying schools are in areas where there is no sight to this "real world"; all the students know of is that any of them could turn up imprisoned or even dead at any point. It's the psychology behind it that leads them to that point of oblivion.

I would suggest for you to go to any elementary school, even in the inner city and ask them. "What do you want to be when you grow up?" How many will say drug dealer? How many will say gang banger? How many will say hooker? These children do have dreams, they do have aspirtions, yet some where along the way, the place where they spend a good chunk of their day fails them.

America has always been about reaching for your dream, working hard enough and you can be anything you want to be. Should we not award the schools that provide our children with those tools, and punish the ones that stagnate?

Or have we become so lazy, so careless, that failure seems to be the only option for these schools?

[mr_pikachu]

As projections for the first Super Tuesday states continue to come in, Huckabee is gaining a surprising amount of ground on Romney - Fox News has him winning West Virginia and Alabama, and he looks to be leading both Georgia and Oklahoma. But McCain is working to pull away with wins in Connecticut, Illinois, and New Jersey, leaving Massachusetts for Romney and the other states still in question.

On the Democratic side, Obama has scored delegates in Georgia and Illinois, but Clinton appears poised to strike back with a win in Oklahoma and early leads in Alabama and New Jersey. (Fox News has called Tennessee for Clinton as well; CNN.com has it too close to call, with Obama retaining a 2% advantage.)

The battle for control is heating up...

[Heald]

Fox News has called Tennessee for Clinton as well; CNN.com has it too close to call, with Obama retaining a 2% advantage.

Bear in mind, last time Fox News got the projections wrong, an idiot got put in the White House.

[Roy Karrde]

Bear in mind, last time The Regular Stations got the projections wrong, we almost got a idiot put in the White House.

Fixed for the Truth.

It isn't Fox News' fault that many stations forgot that Florida was in two time zones and the most Republican areas of it closed one hour later.

[Heald]

It isn't Fox News' fault that many stations forgot that Florida was in two time zones and the most Republican areas of it closed one hour later.

Meh. I just believe the facts, such as the Republicans were too scared to have a legally-binding recount.

[Roy Karrde]

Well it would be nice if he recounted all the Ballots, and not just the Democrat district ones. It would also be nice if he didn't try to change election law to help him win, or throw out all the overseas ballots so that the heavily Republican favored Military didn't get to vote.

Then again it would also have been nice if the Media was actually able to see a map so that they wouldn't call a state before all polls had closed in the state, that way voters heading to vote in the Central Time Zone portion wouldn't believe their vote would be useless.

[Toxicity]

Well, the D.C. rather than state was my bad basing from the reports I saw.

I still think that the states that aren't allowed to have delegates count towards candidacy is a little unfair; it really does seem to turn away well-informed voters in any party. In fact, from what I heard, the family I have in Louisiana didn't even go out to cast their ballots; very conservative Republicans, too. It's an Obamanation. (pun fully intended, of course)

I still wonder if Huckabee does fully intend to hold on the whole time irregardless of delegates. He even stated himself that he won't settle for Vice President.

[Roy Karrde]

Since we are waiting for the next set of Primaries, I figured I would make a list of things the Canidates should not do and obviously need to stop doing. Feel free to add on to the list if you want

1: Stupid Slogans: One thing that seems to pop up during every single race is slogans that sound good, and build up hype, but mean absolutely nothing. The most recent example is Obama's "Yes We Can" slogan. Yes we can what? What can we do? What are we saying Yes to? The same goes with the "Change" slogan. Change what? What will be the result of this change? The Stupid Slogans that mean nothing MUST GO.

2: Attacking the Previous President: In no other job do you recieve the job by bitching about the guy who's position you want to take. We know about the falts of the previous guy, yet the canidates act as if they are telling it to us for the first time. The problem is that we know what he has done, tell us what you are going to do.

3: I have a Plan!: This is one of the most annoying things, and was part of John Kerry's downfall. If you have a plan, tell it to us, lay it out so we know what the plan is and how you are going to impliment it. Just saying that you have a plan and then continuing on does nothing but tell us that you believe we are too stupid to understand your plan.

4: Read My Lips: And the thing that brought down George Bush Sr. No matter if you are Democrat or Republican, do not make stupid promises in which you know you probably will not be able to keep. The biggest offender of this is saying you will lower taxes, the problem is that you have no idea what will happen once you get into office and what will happen 4 years down the line. So do not lie to us!

5: It is his fault: Playing the blame game really really gets annoying. If you were part of the problem, then come out and say so, appologise for it and tell us how you are going to fix it. Pointing fingers only makes you look petty and small.

6: Painting Broad Strokes: Everything these days seems to have to be condensed to twenty second sound bites. We live in the age of You Tube where you can make a video as long as you want and tell the people your ideas. Do not just say "Well I am going to lower taxes for the middle class." That only outlines the idea, tell us atleast how you are going to do it so we can atleast hold you to it. Tell us which of the Middle Class are getting their taxes lowered, tell us how you plan to do it, tell us when you will be able to start working toward it. Telling us just the heading and then moving on does absolutely nothing!

Alright, anyone else want to add in?

[Katie]

Obama is ahead of Hillary? holy crap, yaaaay. Anxiously waiting for the TX primary, though I don't even know which democrat is stronger here... All I know is everyone around me hates all candidates except for Ron Paul, wtf.

Also, I want to vent my frustration so TPM will have to do:
A girl next door to me in the dorms doesn't like Obama because, and I quote, "I don't know where his loyalties lie, I don't trust a guy who was Muslim and then mysteriously converted to Christianity right before he runs for president"
*headdesk* I'm not asking for the average clueless college kid to come up with a detailed political analysis of each candidate, but at least take 2 minutes to read a wikipedia page about them to get the fucking basics. Obama was never Muslim, his father was but became atheist before he ever met Barack's mother. He converted to Christianity when he was ~20, I'm pretty sure he wasn't running for the presidency then. Even if you were to doubt it, the instant he made a claim about going to a church he never went to, there would be SO many people saying he was never there that it would run him out of the race. My god, people, logic.