2008 U.S. Presidential Election - Primaries

[darktyranitar]

@Ace:

So, what if Hussein was really a closet Muslim, Ace? Unless... if I recalled correctly, Muslim, Mormons and Atheist are not eligible to run for presidency... is that true?

Iraq is one big mess. The WMD was one big lie. The way I see it, the US have already lost in Iraq. So just pull off the soldiers already - what is there left to fight for?

(Unless, if you're afraid that Iran will call you a 'paper tiger' )

Ah well. You wanna know what the US soldiers are dying for, Ace? One word: PNAC (The Project for the New American Century). Yeap.

On a slightly related note, what's this story I heard of Ron Paul and his supporters being labelled as a domestic terrorist, hm?

[Roy Karrde]

Iraq is one big mess. The WMD was one big lie.

You have to know something for certain to lie about it. The only one that knew if there were WMDs or not was Saddam Hussain.

The way I see it, the US have already lost in Iraq.

Security Force deaths down, Civilian deaths down, Iraqi Troop Deaths down, Bombing deaths down, Al Qaeda has been forced into one town. Yeah it sounds like we lost....

So just pull off the soldiers already - what is there left to fight for?

Keep Al Qaeda from having Afghanistan 2.0

(Unless, if you're afraid that Iran will call you a 'paper tiger' )

More like Osama Bin Laden.

Ah well. You wanna know what the US soldiers are dying for, Ace? One word: PNAC (The Project for the New American Century). Yeap.

Mind explaning that?

[Blademaster]

WAIT A MINUTE!

What's the title of this thread?

"2008 U.S. Presidential Election - Primaries"

Do you see "Iraq War" ANYWHERE in that line?

I don't.

Take the war talk to another thread. Or don't. Either is acceptable.

Honestly, can't we have a discussion about ANYTHING going on in the modern world without it degrading to the war? SHUT UP!

[Toxicity]

While it does play a part in the candidacy for everybody, I do have to agree with Blade on this one. It really does seem like every thread turns into a bash of extremities in regards to opinions - especially the war.

So let's try to take all religion, all radical legions, and ever other variation of the faggot tree out of this thread, shall we?

Also, I highly doubt being born to two atheists (one of which was raised as a Muslim, yes), raised without religion, and later converting to Christianity gives a true reason to be accused of "closet Islam."

Also also, for relevance, Obama has just claimed delegates in Nebraska, Louisiana, and D.C.

[mr_pikachu]

Yes, let's get things back on track. Although I have to correct you, Laura; Obama's gained an advantage from Washington state, not D.C. (The District of Columbia primary isn't until the 12th.)

Update? Why not.

As of 10 p.m. CST, Obama leads Clinton in pledged delegates, 892-866. Clinton has the advantage in superdelegates, 223-131.

RNC members aren't as important in the Republican primary as the Democratic superdelegates, but McCain leads them 17-3 over Huckabee.

DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES

HC: Hillary Clinton
BO: Barack Obama
OT: Still Pledged to Other Candidate


                       HC   BO   OT
ALABAMA                23   21   --
ALASKA                  5   10   --
AMERICAN SAMOA          2    1   --
ARIZONA                34   27   --
ARKANSAS               36    8   --
CALIFORNIA            224  164   --
COLORADO               10   16   --
CONNECTICUT            23   30   --
DELAWARE                9    9   --
DEMOCRATS ABROAD                 --
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA    9    3   --
FLORIDA                 0    0   --
GEORGIA                25   42   --
GUAM                             --
HAWAII                           --
IDAHO                   3   18   --
ILLINOIS               45  111   --
INDIANA                          --
IOWA                   18   19   14
KANSAS                 10   26   --
KENTUCKY                         --
LOUISIANA              16   23   --
MAINE                   2    0   --
MARYLAND                9    4   --
MASSACHUSETTS          62   47   --
MICHIGAN                0    0   --
MINNESOTA              27   53   --
MISSISSIPPI                      --
MISSOURI               40   40   --
MONTANA                          --
NEBRASKA                8   18   --
NEVADA                 14   14   --
NEW HAMPSHIRE          11   12    4
NEW JERSEY             70   49   --
NEW MEXICO             18   13   --
NEW YORK              179   94   --
NORTH CAROLINA                   --
NORTH DAKOTA            5   12   --
OHIO                             --
OKLAHOMA               25   15   --
OREGON                           --
PENNSYLVANIA                     --
PUERTO RICO                      --
RHODE ISLAND                     --
SOUTH CAROLINA         14   26    8
SOUTH DAKOTA                     --
TENNESSEE              40   28   --
TEXAS                            --
UTAH                   11   15   --
VERMONT                          --
VIRGIN ISLANDS                   --
VIRGINIA                6    3   --
WASHINGTON             19   38   --
WEST VIRGINIA                    --
WISCONSIN               2    3   --
WYOMING                          --

TOTAL DELEGATES      1100 1039   26


Needed to win: 2025

Remaining Democratic Primaries and Caucuses:
February 5 – February 12: Democrats Abroad (7)
February 10: Maine (24)
February 12: District of Columbia (15)
February 12: Maryland (70)
February 12: Virginia (83)
February 19: Hawaii (20)
February 19: Wisconsin (74)
March 4: Ohio (141)
March 4: Rhode Island (21)
March 4: Texas (193)
March 4: Vermont (15)
March 8: Wyoming (7)
March 11: Mississippi (33)
April 22: Pennsylvania (158)
May 3: Guam (3)
May 6: Indiana (72)
May 6: North Carolina (155)
May 13: West Virginia (28)
May 17: Kansas (11)
May 20: Kentucky (51)
May 20: Oregon (52)
May 24: Wyoming (5)
June 3: Montana (16)
June 3: South Dakota (15)
June 7: Puerto Rico (55)

REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES

MH: Mike Huckabee
JM: John McCain
RP: Ron Paul
MR: Mitt Romney


                       MH   JM   RP   OT
ALABAMA                20   16    0   --
ALASKA                  6    3    5   12
AMERICAN SAMOA                        --
ARIZONA                 0   53    0   --
ARKANSAS               32    1    0    1
CALIFORNIA              0  149    0    6
COLORADO                0    0    0   43
CONNECTICUT             0   27    0   --
DELAWARE                0   18    0   --
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA                  --
FLORIDA                 0   57    0   --
GEORGIA                45    3    0   --
GUAM                                  --
HAWAII                                --
IDAHO                                 --
ILLINOIS                0   55    0    2
INDIANA                               --
IOWA                   17    3    2   12
KANSAS                 36    2    0   --
KENTUCKY                              --
LOUISIANA               0    3    0   --
MAINE                   0    1    0   18
MARYLAND                              --
MASSACHUSETTS           0   18    0   22
MICHIGAN                1    5    0   24
MINNESOTA               0    0    0   38
MISSISSIPPI                           --
MISSOURI                0   58    0   --
MONTANA                 0    0    0   25
NEBRASKA                              --
NEVADA                  2    4    4   18
NEW HAMPSHIRE           1    7    0    4
NEW JERSEY              0   52    0   --
NEW MEXICO                            --
NEW YORK                0  101    0   --
NORTH CAROLINA                        --
NORTH DAKOTA            5    6    5    8
N. MARIANA ISLANDS                    --
OHIO                                  --
OKLAHOMA                6   32    0   --
OREGON                                --
PENNSYLVANIA                          --
PUERTO RICO                           --
RHODE ISLAND                          --
SOUTH CAROLINA          5   19    0   --
SOUTH DAKOTA                          --
TENNESSEE              23   16    0    8
TEXAS                                 --
UTAH                    0    0    0   36
VERMONT                               --
VIRGIN ISLANDS                        --
VIRGINIA                              --
WASHINGTON                            --
WEST VIRGINIA          18    0    0   --
WISCONSIN                             --
WYOMING                 0    0    0    9

TOTAL DELEGATES       217  714   16  286


Needed to win: 1191

Remaining Republican Primaries and Caucuses:
January 25 – February 5: Hawaii (20)
February 12: District of Columbia (16)
February 12: Maryland (37)
February 12: Virginia (63)
February 16: Guam (6)
February 16: Louisiana (24)
February 19: Washington (19)
February 19: Wisconsin (37)
February 23: Northern Mariana Islands (6)
February 23: Virgin Islands (6)
February 24: Puerto Rico (20)
March 1: American Samoa (6)
March 4: Ohio (85)
March 4: Rhode Island (17)
March 4: Texas (137)
March 4: Vermont (17)
March 11: Mississippi (36)
April 5: Tennessee (12)
April 22: Pennsylvania (62)
May 3 – May 24: Minnesota (24)
May 6: Indiana (27)
May 6: North Carolina (69)
May 13: Nebraska (31)
May 13: West Virginia (9)
May 20: Kentucky (45)
May 20: Oregon (30)
May 20 – 21: New York (11)
May 22: Kansas (10)
May 24 – June 7: Colorado (21)
May 27: Idaho (26)
May 31: Wyoming (2)
June 3: South Dakota (24)
June 3: New Mexico (29)
June 6 – June 7: Pennsylvania (9)
June 7: Illinois (10)
June 7: Minnesota (14)
June 9 – June 10: Indiana (27)


It appears that Huckabee won't get any credit for winning the Louisiana primary...