2008 U.S. Presidential Election - Primaries

[Katie]

It's a buy one get one deal, but whatever.
I'd rather have someone to explain or defend what the public hates (or, god forbid, listen to them). He sounds like a child with that response, and when he doesn't give a flying fuck about people dying it's quite worrying.
Leaders who lose followers because they don't care about them don't stay leaders long. Oh well, he'll be out soon and it'll be tough for whoever wins the election to beat his pricktastic ways, so I guess that's a bright side.

[Roy Karrde]

I'd rather have someone to explain or defend what the public hates (or, god forbid, listen to them).

The public already knows the reasons for staying in Iraq. Marching around the street isnt going to change his mind. So why should he explain or defend something that has already been explained and defended for a long time.

He sounds like a child with that response, and when he doesn't give a flying fuck about people dying it's quite worrying.

Woah he never said he didn't care about people dying, you are putting words in his mouth. He said he didn't care about the protestors. Some times leaders have to stand on what they know is right and stick to it.

Leaders who lose followers because they don't care about them don't stay leaders long.

And you know what Leaders who govern by polls are called? Bill Clinton Officials ( Thank God Hillary has shown some personal judgement ). The Office of the President was designed to have a man in it that could make decisions for the country based on his own judgement. Not what his followers or any one else says. If we have a President that governs by the polls, that governs by his followers, then nothing gets done, becuase the President puts his poll numbers over the wellfare of the country.

[Katie]

I'm not playing the piece by piece quote game with you, but I still stand by what I said. I guess we have different ideas about who the president should listen to and that's where this conversation would eventually stop so I'll save us the trouble.

[Roy Karrde]

That sounds fair enough! But to keep the topic going, does anyone believe Obama has a chance in Pennsylvania after his racist remark and racist pastor? Pennsylvania seems to be a pretty white state that wouldn't really seem to enjoy voting for some one like that.

[Leon-IH]

That sounds fair enough! But to keep the topic going, does anyone believe Obama has a chance in Pennsylvania after his racist remark and racist pastor? Pennsylvania seems to be a pretty white state that wouldn't really seem to enjoy voting for some one like that.

Well even over here that'd kill any chance he'd have, and I'd like to think we're in general a bit less inclined to pass judgment over one airy remark.