DragonballZ RPG

[Mystic_clown]

Indeed, Super Saiyan are extremely powerful, almost insanely so. Usually when one turns into a Super Saiyan, it's usually something epic. For goku, it was when Frieza killed Krillan, and it wasn't an instant transformation as well. For Vegeta, after days of non-stop training and almost pretty much killing himself, he simply stopped caring anymore. Something snapped inside him. For future Trunks, it was after seeing Gohan, his only surviving friend, die infront of him. The only exceptions to this were regular Trunks and Goten, and their transformations were a complete surprise to everyone (Hell, Chichi cried when he did).

In response to the idea that descendants of super saiyans can go also go super saiyan, I'd like to point to a main character of GT, Pan. Now, by your logic, since Pan's the daughter of a super saiyan, she should be able to as well. Well, throughout the entire series of GT, she never once went super saiyan. Heck, she didn't seem to be anywhere near as good a fighter as Goten and Trunks were at her age. This can be attributed to the fact that the saiyan blood in her is starting to thin, due to the fact since her father was a half-breed and her mother was human, she's pretty much a quarter breed. If this is going to be set in the future (which everyone seems to agree on), than all of Goku and Vegeta's descendants could have lost the ability to go super saiyan, and it's gone back to legend again.

I'm not saying we should ban super saiyans outright. I'm just saying that at the beginning, that power should be out of reach, but you should be able to as the RPG progresses. Don't feel that your character would be piss weak without it. Even without the ability to go super, Goku and Vegeta were still pretty powerful. Goku managed to hold his own against Frieza long before he went super saiyan.

[Blademaster]

In response to the idea that descendants of super saiyans can go also go super saiyan, I'd like to point to a main character of GT, Pan. Now, by your logic, since Pan's the daughter of a super saiyan, she should be able to as well. Well, throughout the entire series of GT, she never once went super saiyan. Heck, she didn't seem to be anywhere near as good a fighter as Goten and Trunks were at her age. This can be attributed to the fact that the saiyan blood in her is starting to thin, due to the fact since her father was a half-breed and her mother was human, she's pretty much a quarter breed.

This is a good point, one which I expected would be brought to light in response to my 'breeding' idea. The thing is, though, that even half-bloods can go Super Saiyan, and so if the original Super was 'fruiful,' there'd be a lineage no matter what. Think this way:

Super + Normal A = Half-blood 1
Super + Normal B = Half-blood 2

Half-blood 1 + Half-blood 2 = Half-blood 3

It'd be the Saiyan equivalent of Adam and Eve: Provided that there's always at least 1 Super Saiyan or 2 Half-bloods, the lineage can and will continue exponentially.

Now granted, based on Goku's and Vegeta's actions in the anime, the Saiyans probably are primarily a monogamous race. But if a Super Saiyan were to enter the picture, then in the interests of their race, the Saiyans would probably 'stud' him/her. They don't seem to be THAT moral considering their willingness to kick the shit out of each other/other races and blow each other/other races up in the hopes of garnering power. So it's really unlikely to assume that the Saiyan race as a whole would just pass up a Super Saiyan without trying to get something more out of the deal.

[Heald]

Now granted, based on Goku's and Vegeta's actions in the anime, the Saiyans probably are primarily a monogamous race. But if a Super Saiyan were to enter the picture, then in the interests of their race, the Saiyans would probably 'stud' him/her. They don't seem to be THAT moral considering their willingness to kick the shit out of each other/other races and blow each other/other races up in the hopes of garnering power. So it's really unlikely to assume that the Saiyan race as a whole would just pass up a Super Saiyan without trying to get something more out of the deal.

True, but you're forgetting Goku was the first Super Saiyan for a thousand years, so either this Super Saiyan either never had any children or the Saiyans had never heard of the theory of evolution and thus didn't take advantage of it.

Besides, look at the Saiyans; they're hardly a race that favours society over self-preservation: all Saiyans shown in the series (apart from Goku and his lot) hated the ones more powerful than themselves and all strived to try and beat each other. If a Super Saiyan came along, they wouldn't all suddenly put their differences aside and suddenly try to all be friends, they'd still all try and beat each other up as they normally do. You're assuming that the Saiyans put their race before themselves, but in reality that doesn't seem to be the case.