Final Fantasy

[DivineAll]

I didn't get into the Final Fantasy series until I played Tactics Advance. Since I'm somewhat of a hardcore Nintendo fan, I pretty much stuck with the Nintendo versions of the FF series.
However, I've seen Let's Plays and videos of the Playstation saga of Final Fantasy and I have to say this to all fans of about one game in particular: VII sucked.

I don't care if you liked it because of all the new innovations and whatnot and I don't care if took a giant step forward into the modern world rather than a fantasy world, which is in the title of the series like Rudy said. It wasn't the best Fantasy. VI is the best fantasy out of all of them with IX being in second, only for the nostalgia factor, then VII.

Of course that's just personal opinion. Also adding to the fact Kefka actually destroyed the world and became a pseudo-god while Sephiroth didn't destroy the world at all and almost became a pseudo-god.

[Master Rudy]

I didn't get into the Final Fantasy series until I played Tactics Advance. Since I'm somewhat of a hardcore Nintendo fan, I pretty much stuck with the Nintendo versions of the FF series.
However, I've seen Let's Plays and videos of the Playstation saga of Final Fantasy and I have to say this to all fans of about one game in particular: VII sucked.

I don't care if you liked it because of all the new innovations and whatnot and I don't care if took a giant step forward into the modern world rather than a fantasy world, which is in the title of the series like Rudy said. It wasn't the best Fantasy. VI is the best fantasy out of all of them with IX being in second, only for the nostalgia factor, then VII.

Of course that's just personal opinion. Also adding to the fact Kefka actually destroyed the world and became a pseudo-god while Sephiroth didn't destroy the world at all and almost became a pseudo-god.

Div sums it up pretty well. While I wouldn't go so far as to say FF7 sucked I will say that the reasons he listed are the main reasons why I just prefer FF6 overall. I think the primary reason why everyone is so damn crazy over 7 is the fact that this was the point that Final Fantasy and RPG's in general became "mainstream" so to speak. Hell when FF7 came out I was one of the few going "what the hell happened to 4-6?!"

But yeah....while 7 is still good there are several elements in the story itself you could potentially lift out of that and drop right back into FF6, and since FF6 came first and took the shocking step of actually destroying the world I'm going to have to say that one did those elements better.

EDIT-The 6 vs. 7 debate always tends to be a sore subject that almost always gets a flame war going in fan circles. Let me put it this way. No matter what side of the debate you are on, set all nostalgia aside for both games. Think about it this way: if both FF6 and FF7 had the same production values, both came out on the PS3, had full voice acting, ect then which do you think would be the better of the two? The key things to look at in this are the overall story and character development. Hell it's easier to think of FF7 on the PS3 thanks to Advent Children so if you have trouble doing that for FF6 then try to imagine FF7 as a 16 bit game instead

[Blademaster]

oh and blademaster, isnt my fault u have no taste in good games

thou FF7 is by far the best one made

UAU confirmed. FFVI and FFIV were FAR superior titles.

because final fantasy was the founders of RPGF games and the reason for the likes of World of Warcraft is because of the likes of FF6 and 7 which set new levels for RPG gaming so ha

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Look. Kid. Since you're new here I'll try and be nice.

First and foremost, there's no such thing as an "RPGF game" unless this place has started developing video games that I don't know about sometime in the past 7 hours.

Second, Final Fantasy was NOT the 'founder' of anything. If the word you're looking for is 'forerunner,' or maybe 'inspiration,' that's not correct either. RPG's in video games existed and were popular before Final Fantasy, and even before the aforementioned DRagon Quest/Dragon Warrior series. FF may have made RPG's profitable, but games such as Rogue and Zork/Dungeon made them period.

Third, if you think WoW was heavily influenced by FF.... Well, since I'm being nice, all I'll permit myself to say is a firm and resounding "No.". I could pull information out of nowhere like you and claim WoW was influenced by Dungeons & Dragons instead, but WoW is actually a sequel: the fourth in a series of PC games called the Warcraft series. Not only has the series always been western, as opposed to the very obvious JPRG structure that Final Fantasy games follow, but it didn't even start out as an RPG series: It started as an RTS series.

And lastly, while FFVI and FFVII were at the very least pretty good games, can you name a few of these "new levels" that they set? FFVI was a fine game, but what specifically did it do that games like Chrono Trigger, Breath of Fire, Sword of Mana, Lufia, and the dozens of other early '90's JRPG's didn't do? And FFVII... It was one of the first and most well-made 3-D JRPG's made. OK. It also made the FF series needlessly emotional (a problem that REALLY manifested in FFVIII and has been lingering since) and it created an entire generation of arrogant fantards the likes of which even the Halo and Zelda series have trouble competing with.

You like the FF series. Fine. But don't come and make baseless claims when you have no idea what you're talking about. TPM only has one egotistical and misinformed video game-obsessed loser, and it's not you. ;/