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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Karrde View Post
    Ever consider WHY they have such cushy jobs? Being on Cable allows them to broadcast to millions of people every week. It keeps both of them visible, front of mind, and able to expose on Political Views with little worry of media backlash. You take jobs like that to get ready for the next election.
    Nope. You take jobs like that to make bank after you're done making strong ties and get out of public service. No president in the past 40 years (or possibly ever, not going to bother looking it up because I'm most likely right) has gone from public service to high paying pundit job to president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazr View Post
    Nope. You take jobs like that to make bank after you're done making strong ties and get out of public service. No president in the past 40 years (or possibly ever, not going to bother looking it up because I'm most likely right) has gone from public service to high paying pundit job to president.
    Well that is a pretty ignorant statement as the 24 Hour Cable News Networks have really only came into existence over the previous two Presidencies. Before that it was strictly nightly news. Now like it or not both candidates are gearing up toward making a 2012 run, and both of them would be insane not to, Huckabee polls incredibly high against Obama, and Palin's numbers have been on the rebound since the book tour. A book tour by the way, which looked alot like a early primary tour to gather up support.

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    Well first I had to look up Freep so that should tell you something. Second while I am right wing I am not a political activist, I have only gone to two political events in my life, one of which was a local watching party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Karrde View Post
    Well that is a pretty ignorant statement as the 24 Hour Cable News Networks have really only came into existence over the previous two Presidencies. Before that it was strictly nightly news. Now like it or not both candidates are gearing up toward making a 2012 run, and both of them would be insane not to, Huckabee polls incredibly high against Obama, and Palin's numbers have been on the rebound since the book tour. A book tour by the way, which looked alot like a early primary tour to gather up support.
    Huckabee is a religious fundamentalist with some pretty prehistoric views that 'fit in with the bible' but sadly aren't up to date in our current society, gotta move forward or you risk falling behind. He lost to John McCain in the primaries. John McCain, a doddering old robot who couldn't even beat a black guy in the United States. edit, seriously I just want to reiterate that John fucking McCain was the best candidate that the republicans could field in '08 is mind blowing.

    Palin is a joke. Everything she did or said during the '08 election was just a complete and utter joke and the thought of her actually running for President in '12 not only makes me filled with glee for the inevitable slaughter but the sheer amounts of comedy that will be produced from it will be staggering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kazr View Post
    Huckabee is a religious fundamentalist with some pretty prehistoric views that 'fit in with the bible' but sadly aren't up to date in our current society, gotta move forward or you risk falling behind. He lost to John McCain in the primaries. John McCain, a doddering old robot who couldn't even beat a black guy in the United States.
    And while I agree with you, nothing of that prevents him from running again and possibly winning the nomination.

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    edit, seriously I just want to reiterate that John fucking McCain was the best candidate that the republicans could field in '08 is mind blowing.
    Not really, there was a heavy Republican Backlash in early 2008 building, and the party believed a man who was well liked by Independents and Hispanics could possibly win against the two heavy weights on the Democratic side. In the end they were wrong.

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    Palin is a joke. Everything she did or said during the '08 election was just a complete and utter joke and the thought of her actually running for President in '12 not only makes me filled with glee for the inevitable slaughter but the sheer amounts of comedy that will be produced from it will be staggering.
    And I will say it again, do not underestimate her, also we have no idea what the Political Climate will be in 2012. It could possibly be even more toxic for Democrats than it is right now. Just as the Political Climate in 2008 was toxic for Republicans. If it is, expect the Republican candidate to win. Also as I have said it again, if Hillary Clinton can start out looking like a soul less evil bitch, and in the end look like a respectable human being just through the riggers of one campaign, anything can happen.

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    You know what the stupid funny thing is? The Republican Party's values were the Democratic's and vice-versa. Over the past couple years or so their values were reversed or something along those lines, somehow, and they were supposed to reverse back right around when Clinton was leaving office. However, thanks to Bush the second being elected, it's gonna take quite a while for that to happen because of his status of why he was elected. So in other words, all that is happening to the U.S. right now is W. Bush's fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineAll View Post
    You know what the stupid funny thing is? The Republican Party's values were the Democratic's and vice-versa. Over the past couple years or so their values were reversed or something along those lines, somehow, and they were supposed to reverse back right around when Clinton was leaving office. However, thanks to Bush the second being elected, it's gonna take quite a while for that to happen because of his status of why he was elected. So in other words, all that is happening to the U.S. right now is W. Bush's fault.
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    "Do not underestimate Palin" is a retarded talking point and maybe if the media repeats it ad nauseum then it could come true, I guess? I am underestimating her because all her opponents would have to do is play sound bites of her speaking in her run as McCain's VP to kick her stupid ass right to the curb. She has a fringe, albeit hardcore following but I pray for not just my country but the rest of the world that not enough people could possibly vote in this walking monstrosity as president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineAll View Post
    You know what the stupid funny thing is? The Republican Party's values were the Democratic's and vice-versa. Over the past couple years or so their values were reversed or something along those lines, somehow, and they were supposed to reverse back right around when Clinton was leaving office. However, thanks to Bush the second being elected, it's gonna take quite a while for that to happen because of his status of why he was elected. So in other words, all that is happening to the U.S. right now is W. Bush's fault.
    Again very simplistic to blame everything on Bush, alot of what is currently happening in the US, atleast economically, the Bush Administration was warning against. That isn't to say Republicans are not partially to blame for what happened, but it is not all Bush's fault. That being said some of the values did switch between the parties. Bush ran against Clinton's nation building efforts of the 90s, promising he wasn't going to nation build. 8 years later we have Iraq and Afghanistan, with the Democrats going after such nation building efforts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Karrde View Post
    Again very simplistic to blame everything on Bush, alot of what is currently happening in the US, atleast economically, the Bush Administration was warning against. That being said some of the values did switch between the parties. Bush ran against Clinton's nation building efforts of the 90s, promising he wasn't going to nation build. 8 years later we have Iraq and Afghanistan, with the Democrats going after such nation building efforts.
    Uh. I wouldn't necessarily call that "switching policies." That's just the typical campaign promise-breaking. Granted, the circumstances were a little extreme... but when in the last two decades has there not been some extreme element? Long story short, don't make a promise if you're not going to keep it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_pikachu View Post
    Uh. I wouldn't necessarily call that "switching policies." That's just the typical campaign promise-breaking. Granted, the circumstances were a little extreme... but when in the last two decades has there not been some extreme element? Long story short, don't make a promise if you're not going to keep it.
    Gotta say between at least the last 4 Presidents that seems to be a recurring theme. Making substantial promises that they knew they could not keep, or were unable to keep due to events outside of their control.

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