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    Quote Originally Posted by Blademaster View Post
    OK, so, at the risk of sounding like a control freak, I gotta vote "No." when it comes to Shitagi using a Spirit Bomb, for several reasons.

    First, as Rudy himself said, the Goddamn thing is too powerful. Yes, I am aware that a Spirit Bomb was used against Vegeta in his first appearance and it failed, but Rothax is far stronger than Vegeta, and the Spirit Bomb used against Vegeta lost a lot of its power when Goku was getting beaten up like a ragdoll anyway, so either the Earth wouldn't supply enough power to do much of anything, or the damn thing would have to be made so strong that the atmosphere-vaporizing meteor-impact one in Tree of Might would have to be used, and I don't think I trust the inexperienced Shitagi with enough power to potentially blow up the planet several times.

    Second, if I may be sentimental, the Spirit Bomb has, to me, always sort of been a special thing that only a select few could do. I mean the only ones capable of using it in DBZ were the guy who created it (who was basically God until the Buu saga) and the hero. It's not like the Kamehameha which everybody and their pet prehistoric bubblegum demon could do by series-end. I think it should stay Goku's.

    And third, and perhaps most vital, is that the move is Basawe's. What Shitagi is holding is not a Spirit Bomb... In execution, it's similar, but he's not truly holding a Spirit Bomb. He's holding a condensed Basawe Boost, basically. Which means that if Shitagi can do it, then Basawe can, as well. This leads to a pair of problems:

    1. While I can't judge Shitagi, I myself know that Basawe's heart is very conflicted. DBZ has clearly established that only those with a pure heart can use the Spirit Bomb effectively.

    2. Basawe's Boost, unlike the Spirit Bomb, is something that we've already seen can easily be taught.


    The end result is that we're going to either wind up with multiple characters learning the Spirit Bomb and dominating Rothax's forces, or (more likely) multiple characters learning the Spirit Bomb and getting themselves and/or the Earth destroyed because they can't use it properly.
    Well that's the whole reason why I left it open ended at the end. Since it's a "Spirit Bomb" powered by other means there could be a whole slew of problems with this one that could show how impractical it truely is:

    -Takes too damn long to charge: just like the real one. It usually took Goku multiple episodes to power the thing up.

    -It can't finish the enemy off. Goku used it three times in the whole series with the first two times being very dire situations where it didn't do the job. The only time this skill actually worked was against Kid Buu. Many fans agree this is because Buu was pure evil and didn't have the free will required to be anything but that. Despite Vegeta insisting otherwise we obviously know he wasn't purely evil. As for Frieza sure he's evil. However unlike Buu he has free will. That alone gave Frieza the ability to reform.....not that he ever would mind you. However it's the best and most accepted theroy as to why the final Spirit Bomb was so effective against Buu since it's supose to be a skill that absolutely destroys evil beings.

    -This is an unperfected skill. The real Spirit Bomb itself tends to cause untold amounts of collateral damage. An unperfected one could have the potential to be far more damaging to the Earth than the real thing.


    I can keep going but I think those three problems right there would be enough to ensure that this isn't going to be a very widely used skill. There could also be a few other potential problems that I never even thought of in character. Damage to others as it draws energy from everything, a potential shortening of the user's natural lifespan similar to the Tri-Beam, ect. Granted Shitagi may be a decendant of the Briefs family and a genius but those two things don't mean he's always right

    And finally as I said before it's not like I had this idea out of the blue. The groundwork was set down in one of your own posts Blade and it's been in the back of my mind as a story idea for a very long time:


    "There's not much latent energy here aside from that energy ball, Shitagi. You managed to absorb its small amount of power and multiply it. Imagine how strong you'll be once you're outside this Chamber, surrounded by energy from the Sun, the planet itself, and every force acting on it."

    Shitagi had to stop to take that in.

    "It's like a cost-effective personal Spirit Bomb..." he muttered, closing his fist.

    "What?"

    He looked up.

    "Oh, uh, nothing. Just thinking about something my grandpa told me when I was younger... So that's how your Boost works? You absorb power from around you instead of forcing it to the forefront of your body?"
    Anyway there you go. That's my reasoning for that post as well as reasons why this can potentially not work. My actual post as well as your own should show why this could work. In the end I say let's agree to disagree on this matter and wait for Heald to say something. Regardless on if he says this is very similar to/actually is the real deal or a dangerous imitation there's plenty of reasons why it won't see widespread use (charge time/being defenseless being the big ones)
    Last edited by Master Rudy; 24th March 2011 at 09:30 PM.

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