2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

I notice you aren't quoting the poll that puts Obama against the "generic GOP candidate" any more.

Know why? Because he's leading in that poll now.

He's also leading in each poll I've seen where it's him against one of the GOP candidates. Romney, Perry, Cain... All of them.

And while the majority of Americans say he doesn't deserve a second term, the majority also says they would prefer him to any GOP contender.

[Roy Karrde]

I notice you aren't quoting the poll that puts Obama against the "generic GOP candidate" any more.

Know why? Because he's leading in that poll now.

He's also leading in each poll I've seen where it's him against one of the GOP candidates. Romney, Perry, Cain... All of them.

And while the majority of Americans say he doesn't deserve a second term, the majority also says they would prefer him to any GOP contender.

Umm last time I checked both the two latest polls ( Fox News and CNN ) have Obama losing to Romney by 2 and 4. By the way against the Generic Republican, Obama is either within the margin of error ( Rasmussen ) or tied ( Politico ). And mind you the candidate polls are still handicapped as one is in the primaries where the base is split in all different directions, and the other isn't.

[Dark Sage]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...bama-1171.html

As you can see, Obama comes out higher in six of these popular polls, Romney in four. Obama clearly has done better.

In fact, whoever this "generic GOP candidate" is, you'd better get him on the debate floor. He's doing a lot better than anyone else. Lol.

Edit: One of the polls where Romney is ahead is Fox News. Big surprise there. Lol.

[Roy Karrde]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...bama-1171.html

As you can see, Obama comes out higher in six of these popular polls, Romney in four. Obama clearly has done better.

Umm yes polls do go up and down, especially when you do not have the field sewn up yet. I'll also remind you that polls right now are very poor in predicting the outcome, however Obama is running against history right now both with Unemployment numbers and his Popularity.

Edit: One of the polls where Romney is ahead is Fox News. Big surprise there. Lol.

Yes and even higher in CNN.

[Dark Sage]

My point was, Roy, that Fox is a practical haven for the GOP. Are you suggesting that CNN favors the Democrats?

Come to think of it, I have no idea if it does. I watch MSNBC. I grew sick of CNN a long time ago. If CNN does favor the Democrats, I'm not about to switch. (Showing favor to either side is not good for a news organization.)

[Roy Karrde]

My point was, Roy, that Fox is a practical haven for the GOP. Are you suggesting that CNN favors the Democrats?

I am saying that these companies outsource to polling organizations, unless they are a known Partisan Pollster like PPP, you cannot claim bias just by the company that hired them. By the way Obama was winning to Romney in the previous two Fox News polls, again its all about the swings of the base during a Primary Election.

[Dark Sage]

Roy, please... There are no Democrats that watch Fox News unless they want the laughs. Even most serious Republicans think folks like Glenn Beck are crazy. The only smart thing that guy ever did was admit that the Birther movement was a sham.

Every time I hear their claim that they are "the only fair and balanced news network" I feel like throwing up. That is false advertising, plain and simple.

It no surprise to me at all that a poll taken by Fox News would fall in Romney's (or any Republican's) favor. It IS, a surprise, however, that Obama would be so close in such a poll.