2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[kurai]

I think you misunderstand. The 'special rights' remark made by Perry, in the foreign aid example, is the right to not be arrested/tortured/executed by the state, or to be openly discriminated against and assaulted in civil society. This is the aid contingency generated by the new Obama approach which Perry so happily rejects.

This is not "just stop[ping] with homosexuals". It is focusing on a mortal necessity. Living is not a special right. Equality under the law is not special. Perry's remarks thus define homosexuals as inhuman.

I am fairly confident that you can take one instance of vicious anti-gay rhetoric and use this to justify an anti-gay interpretation of a second, slightly more ambiguous statement.

[Dark Sage]

People, there's no point. Roy won't give up. He's the same as any Republican. He will not let anybody but himself have the last word, and won't admit that he's wrong. Just let him have it so we won't have to listen to him anymore.

When all the GOP's faults cause them to suffer a disaster next year, he'll finally shut up.

[Roy Karrde]

I think you misunderstand. The 'special rights' remark made by Perry, in the foreign aid example, is the right to not be arrested/tortured/executed by the state, or to be openly discriminated against and assaulted in civil society. This is the aid contingency generated by the new Obama approach which Perry so happily rejects.

This is not "just stop[ping] with homosexuals". It is focusing on a mortal necessity. Living is not a special right. Equality under the law is not special. Perry's remarks thus define homosexuals as inhuman.

Ahh okay that makes sense thanks for straightening it up.

I am fairly confident that you can take one instance of vicious anti-gay rhetoric and use this to justify an anti-gay interpretation of a second, slightly more ambiguous statement.

Except as you say, it is a interpretation nothing more. It is no where close to being definitive. And can be read in more than one ways.

People, there's no point. Roy won't give up. He's the same as any Republican. He will not let anybody but himself have the last word, and won't admit that he's wrong. Just let him have it so we won't have to listen to him anymore.

Yeah not only have I let you and others have the final word, but I have asked you before on commenting on where YOU were wrong, and you refused. Stop with the personal attacks and actually debate.

When all the GOP's faults cause them to suffer a disaster next year, he'll finally shut up.

And will you shut up if Obama loses next year?

[Dark Sage]

Only if you agree right now to shut up if he wins. Deal?

[Roy Karrde]

Only if you agree right now to shut up if he wins. Deal?

I probably wont but then again I am not the one who claimed the other will quiet down when the other loses.