2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

Yes, he had past connections with two crooks.

By the same reasoning, can we say every single person in every government in the Middle East who had past connections with Osama Bin Laden guilty of crimes against humanty? I ask because there were a lot of them before he became the mastermind of 9/11.

[Roy Karrde]

Yes, he had past connections with two crooks.

By the same reasoning, can we say every single person in every government in the Middle East who had past connections with Osama Bin Laden guilty of crimes against humanty? I ask because there were a lot of them before he became the mastermind of 9/11.

Every single person in every government in the Middle East? Now if those people had connections with Bin Laden after he became a terrorist such as Obama knowingly became connected with Ayres after he become a terrorist, I would say those people are connected with terrorist, not guilty of crimes against humanity as that seems to be a stretch. Not to mention I am not saying Obama is now guilty of crimes against humanity for his connection, that is silly. Just saying that no one cares about his past connections.

[Dark Sage]

You misquoted me. I didn't say every single person in every government in the Middle East.

I said every one who had past connections with Bin Laden.

Should we judge a man by the company he keeps? Maybe sometimes, but not always. I had a friend in high school who ceased being a friend in my senior year. He's in prison now, doing time for rape and aggrivated assault. Does that make me a bad person because I used to know him? I don't think so.

[Roy Karrde]

You misquoted me. I didn't say every single person in every government in the Middle East.

I said every one who had past connections with Bin Laden.

Should we judge a man by the company he keeps? Maybe sometimes, but not always. I had a friend in high school who ceased being a friend in my senior year. He's in prison now, doing time for rape and aggrivated assault. Does that make me a bad person because I used to know him? I don't think so.

Again all depends on when the connections or friendship took place. Obama did not begin his friendship with Bill Ayres or Tony Resco before the two became a terrorist or slum lord, he did so after, or in the case of Tony Resco during the events. To use your case, I doubt you were friends with him while the time he was going around attacking and raping people, just as I doubt you would want to be friends with him now that he has gotten out of prison.

You seem to be ignoring the fact that Obama was friends with Ayres AFTER not BEFORE the events that happened in the 60s.

[tron]

You seem to be ignoring the fact that Obama was friends with Ayres AFTER not BEFORE the events that happened in the 60s.

Knowing people does not make them friends, both have said they are not friends and the evidence suggest they were merely acquaintances.

This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis. And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was eight years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense, George.

In a November 2008 interview, Ayers said that he knew Obama only slightly: “I think my relationship with Obama was probably like that of thousands of others in Chicago and, like millions and millions of others, I wished I knew him better.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ay...on_controversy

[Roy Karrde]

Knowing people does not make them friends, both have said they are not friends and the evidence suggest they were merely acquaintances.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ay...on_controversy

Yeah because mere acquaintances not only serve on boards together but hold political coming out parties in their living room. I mean Obama's lame attempt to spin it was so bad even CNN wasn't buying it.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/0...william-ayers/

By the way just to throw it out there, there is only way I will vote for President Obama in November 2012. And that is if Ron Paul is the GOP nominee, that man is crazy as fuck and I would rather have a idiot as a President, than a psychopath.