2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Roy Karrde]

Why do you think he is 'crazy as fuck'? Just name the issue and your reasoning, please. We should discuss. Also, are you planning on being a delegate?

For example:
Foreign policy: he would allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon which it might use against one of our allies or us.

No I am not planing to be a delegate, but yes I see his foreign policy as Crazy as Fuck, and one that would endanger the entire world.

And who can forget his utterly racist views.

[Leon-IH]

No I am not planing to be a delegate, but yes I see his foreign policy as Crazy as Fuck, and one that would endanger the entire world.

You really see letting other countries sort out their own issues as dangerous?

No wonder America is going broke (in no small part from military spending).

[Dark Sage]

In the meantime, the GOP in the House have just caved in on the payroll tax deal, after realizing that they couldn't possibly blame it on the Democrats, they ended up looking like the fools they are, and Obama, who got tough with them, hasn't looked better in months

[Roy Karrde]

In the meantime, the GOP in the House have just caved in on the payroll tax deal, after realizing that they couldn't possibly blame it on the Democrats, they ended up looking like the fools they are,

Sadly it is the American people who are the fools in this. We have a two month extension which is already going to play hell on the payrolls, and we are draining Social Security even faster causing its failure to speed up.

and Obama, who got tough with them, hasn't looked better in months

And yet now he is faced with a decision on the Keystone pipeline, he cannot coward out on it now, he has to either piss off the Environmentalists, or piss off Unions and the American people.

[Dark Sage]

And yet now he is faced with a decision on the Keystone pipeline, he cannot coward out on it now, he has to either piss off the Environmentalists, or piss off Unions and the American people.

Roy, that is one of the few issues where I would say, go along with the GOP. I happen to think that the pipeline would benefit the country in the long run.

However, I do think that one major factor in the deal, the reluctance the GOP has to tax the rich, is something that they should be held accountable for.

And by the way, I think that the past couple of days has proven beyond a doubt that Obama is NOT a coward.

[Roy Karrde]

Roy, that is one of the few issues where I would say, go along with the GOP. I happen to think that the pipeline would benefit the country in the long run.

However, I do think that one major factor in the deal, the reluctance the GOP has to tax the rich, is something that they should be held accountable for.

“I personally don’t believe we ought to be raising taxes or cutting spending until we get this economy off the ground. If we cut government spending, which I normally would be very inclined to do when the deficit’s this big, with interest rates already near zero you can’t get the benefits out of it."

You know who said that? Bill Clinton.

“So he’s absolutely right, the last thing you want to do is raise taxes in the middle of a recession because that would just suck up – take more demand out of the economy and put business further in a hole.”

You know who said that? Barack Obama

The Democrats have taken this tax the rich thing and extended it to fiscal stupidity, you want to raise taxes? Sure lets do it, and it will damage our economy.

And by the way, I think that the past couple of days has proven beyond a doubt that Obama is NOT a coward.

How so? Obama said that if Congress included the Keystone deal he would veto it. Then he backed away. He also said he wanted a 1 year extension, he caved for 2 months. How is that not cowardly? He backed up and backed up on this deal.

The eff is so tough about it? Do it. Then build environmental Labs (or contract one to build another laboratory near the pipeline...) to help with testing of soils and water and all other things to help the environment stay at at a stable level with the pipelines existence. Really don't see how this is a problem, but maybe I'm being too general. :/ Again-non politically inclined mind talking...

Because its a election year and the President is trying to get support from the Psycho Environmentalists, which is why he wanted to put of the decision until after the election.

[DarkestLight]

And yet now he is faced with a decision on the Keystone pipeline, he cannot coward out on it now, he has to either piss off the Environmentalists, or piss off Unions and the American people.

The eff is so tough about it? Do it. Then build environmental Labs (or contract one to build another laboratory near the pipeline...) to help with testing of soils and water and all other things to help the environment stay at at a stable level with the pipelines existence. Really don't see how this is a problem, but maybe I'm being too general. :/ Again-non politically inclined mind talking...