2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

The new poll is out. It shows Obama leading both Romney and Gingrich.

And here is my updated list of Obama's accomplishments for people to consider:

He has overhauled the food safety system;
Advanced women's rights in the work place;
Ended Don't Ask, Don't Tell (DADT) in our military;
Stopped defending DOMA in court;
Passed the Hate Crimes bill.;
Appointed two pro-choice women to the Supreme Court;
Expanded access to medical care and provided subsidies for people who can't afford it;
Expanded the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP);
Fixed the preexisting conditions travesty [and rescissions] in health insurance;
Invested in clean energy;
Overhauled the credit card industry, making it much more consumer-friendly;
While Dodd-Frank bill was weak in many respects, it was still an extremely worthwhile start at re-regulating the financial sector;
He created a Elizabeth Warren's dream agency: The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau;
He's done a lot for veterans;
He got help for people whose health was injured during the clean-up after the 9/11 attacks;

Vote Obama in 2012.

[Roy Karrde]

The new poll is out. It shows Obama leading both Romney and Gingrich.

Curious question, what is the stats of the poll? What is the break down? How many percentage Democrats? How many percentage Republican? How many percentage Independents? OH! That's right, ABC/Washington Post refused to publish that result, curious aint it.

And here is my updated list of Obama's accomplishments for people to consider:

Fixed the preexistin*g conditions travesty [and rescission*s] in health insurance;

More than likely will be overturned.

Invested in clean energy;

Solyndra

Overhauled the credit card industry, making it much more consumer-f*riendly;

Which inturn caused the banks to force fees onto the consumers. A good example of Government stupidity on not realizing every action creates a reaction.

While Dodd-Frank bill was weak in many respects, it was still an extremely worthwhile start at re-regulat*ing the financial sector;

While continuing to ignore the cause of the financial sector downfall.

He's done a lot for veterans;

I am sorry but isn't this the same bastard who wanted to try out the idea of Military Vets injuries suffered in the line of duty to be handled by Private Health Insurance, thus making it harder for them to get it? That it created so much hatred that Veterans groups had to go to the White House to force him to change it?

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/...sial_thir.html

[Dark Sage]

You know, if the Supreme Court rules in favor of the Affordable Health Care Act, I'm going to have so much fun telling every member of the GOP who's so sure they won't, "I told you so".

[Roy Karrde]

You know, if the Supreme Court rules in favor of the Affordable Health Care Act, I'm going to have so much fun telling every member of the GOP who's so sure they won't, "I told you so".

If they do, it will just energize the GOP to put in a President to overturn it. You want to have the GOP to turn out in droves, have them keep the act in.

By the way since you seem to be so keen to point out Obama's green energy policy. One of the Car Companies other than Solyndra that received the money, not only is using to create jobs in... Finland. But in the U.S. they are laying off people.

Fisker Automotive, the electric car company that received a half-billion dollars in Energy Department loan guarantees, announced layoffs at its Delaware production facility Monday.

The Energy Department agreed to loans totaling $528 million for two Fisker electric car projects: a luxury model — the$103,000 Karma which is on sale now — and a more affordable sedan, the Nina. …

“We have temporarily delayed work at the plant based on ongoing discussions with the DOE regarding funding for the Project Nina program. As a result, we have laid-off 26 people,” the company said in a statement Monday

http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/06/auto...source=cnn_bin

Hey it's only half a billion right?

[Dark Sage]

Another thing I find strange, Roy, is how you were so sure that the polls were legit and accurate when the GOP was winning, but now that they aren't, you question their accuracy.

And please, stop providing links to conservative periodicals. Do you think they're really going to put Mr. Obama in a positive light?

[Roy Karrde]

Another thing I find strange, Roy, is how you were so sure that the polls were legit and accurate when the GOP was winning, but now that they aren't, you question their accuracy.

Because usually polls provide a partisan break down, and while generally it favors the Democrats, you can atleast see what percentage Republicans, Independents, and Democrats they polls. When a poll suddenly does not provide it, and the numbers are suddenly really good for the candidate, questions arise as to how skewed the poll was in favor of that candidate.

Edit: Hell even a Democratic Pollster at the Huffington Post points out the flaws in this poll go beyond just a failure to produce a breakdown.

Today the Washington Post/ABC News released a survey showing Obama over majority support among registered voters (51% Obama, 45% Romney). But as Romney’s pollster Neil Newhouse (a partner in the firm Public Opinion Strategies) pointed out in a blast email, the poll asked about a few of Romney potential liabilities just prior to the vote question. This goes against polling best practices, and it’s possible the survey shows elevated Obama numbers as a result.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/margie...b_1257642.html

And please, stop providing links to conservative periodicals. Do you think they're really going to put Mr. Obama in a positive light?

CNN Money is a Conservative Periodical?

[Dark Sage]

Hey, Roy, want to know something that the Supreme Court will almost definately rule unconstituional?

The Constintutional Amendment that some conservatives want defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman, which all the GOP candidates have signed a moral obligation to support.

And I thought you didn't like the Huffington Post.