ASB Movelist

[Oslo]

If the move you draw doesn't have a medium, it still takes an action for the move to come into existance. Hence if you draw a Fireblast, it wold take an action before it flew off and scorched anyone

So is what you told me the other day about Magic Coat or Safeguard coming into effect immediately upon being Sketched no longer valid?

[DarkestLight]

So is what you told me the other day about Magic Coat or Safeguard coming into effect immediately upon being Sketched no longer valid?

No. Its valid

*Confused face*

Ugh hate thinking. Ok.

Train of thinking when I said that: "If you draw something around yourself, it should be able to happen instantly, since its not a move that requires aiming."

Days later" Well now wait. All moves need energy to be created into the world. That's why Smeargle only knows Sketch, it runs the risk of being hampered if it dosen't already have moves to Sketch. Sketch allows the Smeargle to remember the move-then its available for use. Hence, all moves need that action."

Shift to today. Let's use Flamethrower.
I would say if someone used Smeargle and drew a actual Flamethrower, then Smeargle could use Flamethrower all damn day until fuel ran out or something.

Having Smeargle draw actual flames to be thrown would still take an action, because he's not drawing the fire as we know it, he's drawing the outline of the fire, and then it comes into existence.

As for the cartoon physics, that makes the most sense to me. You draw a hole under someone, yer just gonna see the line. You aren't going to know its a hole. Then it appears and you fall in it.

Now-for self helping attacks. If you draw any shield around yourself, it would take an action. I was thinking immediately since certain attacks would be used in response to an action. (Counter, Mirror Coat, etc..) Damn. This pokemon is making us have a crapton of foresight to use like, 4 attacks.

Ok so. How about...

1) Smeargle draws a medium-attacks can be used via medium until medium is broken.

2) Direct response attacks (Counter, Mirror Coat, Metal Burst, Bide) aren't actually Sketchable. If these attacks need to be used, they can be sketched and used instan--wait no. Cause then you could Counter/Mirror Coat all day. Lame. Yeah, gonna have to use foresight if using those moves. You don't necessarily have to have a medium for these types of moves, but it would still take an action.

3) Stat boosts:Things like Safeguard would need to be sketched -and they would fade away in time. Consumable mediums, or even just the energy in question since the move does have a time alottment.

Whew, yeah. Any more input into Sketch?

[Oslo]

*reads DL's post like nine times*

Er, I don't like the cartoon physics thing. What's stopping a Smeargle user from constantly Sketching their opponent into ridiculously deep holes that can't be climbed out? Or painting them into cages? Or sealed tanks of water? Or dropping dump truck-sized anvils on them? Or painting walls that function like Protect but, since they're not Protect, could be feasibly used again and again in succession?

That on top of being able to Sketch any of their opponent's moves directly AND being able to draw any medium that can use any move = brrrroken. More broken than before this conversation?

Also, I think the Movelist entry for Sketch should be edited to include (among like fifty other things) a proviso about what makes for an acceptable medium. To use recent examples I've encountered, Ash trying to Sketch a rainbow-coloured orb that could call upon any move and battle gloves jewelled with all the elements.

[DarkestLight]

*reads DL's post like nine times*

Er, I don't like the cartoon physics thing. What's stopping a Smeargle user from constantly Sketching their opponent into ridiculously deep holes that can't be climbed out? Or painting them into cages? Or sealed tanks of water? Or dropping dump truck-sized anvils on them? Or painting walls that function like Protect but, since they're not Protect, could be feasibly used again and again in succession?

Ref interpretation. I'm pretty sure that
1) Deep holes have no precedence when it comes to Dig, since if the Pokemon could not dig themselves out, then adversely, they could not be attacked by the other Pokemon effectively.

2) Painting them in cages is legal. Cages have gaps in them. Cages can be broken. You said cage. not "Steel and cement laden box of no air=death"

3) Sealed tanks of water=Teleport into Ocean depths. Been done before LOL.

4) Dump Truck sized anvils. The action it takes for the object to form, they can step away, barring any extreme circumstance. Free Agility..

5) Walls. Protect would still follow the same criteria, but those walls would break down, and be ineffective.

Baically, Im sayting that ref interpretation of how the move can be correlated to a Pokemon Move is necessary of how its sketched.


Also, I think the Movelist entry for Sketch should be edited to include (among like fifty other things) a proviso about what makes for an acceptable medium. To use recent examples I've encountered, Ash trying to Sketch a rainbow-coloured orb that could call upon any move and battle gloves jewelled with all the elements.[/quote]

o.O LOL @ infinity Gauntly reference.