2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

Not sure. How many?

I take it you know?

[Roy Karrde]

Not sure. How many?

I take it you know?

No but I would assume that nearly a trillion dollars in Stimulus funds have to create a significant number of jobs even temporarily.

[Dark Sage]

So you say my numbers are flawed, but you don't know by how much, nor do you have anything to back your claim up with? You only "assume"?

[Roy Karrde]

So you say my numbers are flawed, but you don't know by how much, nor do you have anything to back your claim up with? You only "assume"?

Well let me put it this way, if a significant amount of those numbers are not from the Stimulus, then Obama is responsible for signing into law a trillion dollar Stimulus that does not even make up a significant amount of 3.6 million jobs.

[Dark Sage]

Roy, every time I make a claim with no proof, you refute it.

You made a claim with no proof. Now either provide some, or I'm calling BS on it.

Edit: And by the way, your claim was that most of the jobs he created have now been lost.

[Roy Karrde]

Roy, every time I make a claim with no proof, you refute it.

You made a claim with no proof. Now either provide some, or I'm calling BS on it.

Well the CBO claims that 3.7 million jobs were created under the Stimulus.

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-mone...ted-job-growth

Which suggests that a significant amount of Obama's numbers came from that alone.

Edit: And by the way, your claim was that most of the jobs he created have now been lost.

No where did I say "Most", I said and I quote "How many of those jobs have now been lost now that the Stimulus money is now gone?".

Now if we are to suggest that most of Obama's jobs came from the Stimulus, then logically many of those were temporary jobs, as it was even acknowledged at the time they were only temporary jobs.

[Dark Sage]

Nothing there about any of the jobs that Obama created that were ultimately lost.

Am I missing something?