2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Roy Karrde]

Bullshit. By law, the candidate can have no connection to a SuperPAC that is suppporting him, and no control over it. It is an entitiy that exists independent of him.

And is that why he not only endorsed the PAC but is allowing White House staffers to campaign for it?

If I wanted to compare Romney's relation to Trump to Obama's relation to anyone I would have said so. I do not, and I don't care. Trump is a birther racist, and so long as Romney pals around with with him, I won't respect him.

Seeing your low opinion of Romney already, I doubt that changes much. But its funny that you are mad at Romney for being pals with a birther, but have no problem with Obama being pals with a terrorist.

And like I said Roy, my respect for you has now diminished.

And I care about this why?

Edit: I'm "one of the biggest partisan hacks on here"? Maybe, but so are you.

I may be a distant second, but that is the keyword isn't it.. distant.

By the way here are some facts for you.

Romney's Unemployment Rate: 4.5%
Number of net new jobs created under Obama ( In the negatives still )
Romney's gain in women over the last month: +13%
Obama's gain in women over the last month: -7%

[Dark Sage]

Romney is putting money before political morals. That's the bottom line.

Obama may have gotten endorsements from some controversial people - like Bill Maher and Al Sharpton - but he never held campaign fundraisers with them!

I'm sorry if I seem harsh, but I think birthers are scum. The accusations that they make towards Obama are the biggest insult towards a man who holds the office of President that have ever been made. And they all stem towards the fact that he is African-American.

And you are a hypocrite, Roy. You once called the birther movement nonsense, and claimed you refuted the claim on other websites. Now, Romney has allied himself with one of the worst, and you don't have backbone enough to call him out on it.

Oh, and by the way, smarty pants... Those figures of how Romney has gained support from women and how Obama has lost it... Despite that, Obama still has a vast lead over Romney in that demographic.

Edit: Obama is not pals with a terrorist. He simply knew the guy.

[Roy Karrde]

Romney is putting money before political morals. That's the bottom line.

And Obama hasn't?

Obama may have gotten endorsements from some controversial people - like Bill Maher and Al Sharpton - but he never held campaign fundraisers with them!

No he has from Jimmy Hoffa Jr though.

I'm sorry if I seem harsh, but I think birthers are scum. The accusations that they make towards Obama are the biggest insult towards a man who holds the office of President that have ever been made. And they all stem towards the fact that he is African-American.

Really? It all has to do with racism? It may not have anything to do with say a tough primary with Hillary? Or the fact that Obama has such a mysterious past? Or the fact that he himself has portrayed himself as being born in Kenya in the past?

And you are a hypocrite, Roy. You once called the birther movement nonsense, and claimed you refuted the claim on other websites. Now, Romney has allied himself with one of the worst, and you don't have backbone enough to call him out on it.

Dude I have not said anything for or against Romney's views on it, I said I can see where they come from in not wanting to play the disownment game.

Oh, and by the way, smarty pants... Those figures of how Romney has gained support from women and how Obama has lost it... Despite that, Obama still has a vast lead over Romney in that demographic.

Widdle Away, all he has to do is widdle away.

Edit: Obama is not pals with a terrorist. He simply knew the guy.

Just like Romney simply knows Trump. Those are the same standards we must apply here seeing how Ayres played a major role in getting Obama off the ground and into the political field.

[Dark Sage]

Really? It all has to do with racism? It may not have anything to do with say a tough primary with Hillary? Or the fact that Obama has such a mysterious past? Or the fact that he himself has portrayed himself as being born in Kenya in the past?

Okay, I'm gonna name three names. Listen closely...

Barrak Obama
Mitt Romney
Donald Trump

What do these three men have in common, other than the fact that they were all Ivy Leagers?

Answer: All three had one parent who was not born in the United States.

So answer this. Of the three of them, why is Obama the only one who's citizenship and eligibilty for the office he holds questioned? No one has has ever questioned Romney about it, or Trump when he considered a White House run.

I'm listening...

[Roy Karrde]

Okay, I'm gonna name three names. Listen closely...

Barrak Obama
Mitt Romney
Donald Trump

What do these three men have in common, other than the fact that they were all Ivy Leagers?

Answer: All three had one parent who was not born in the United States.

So answer this. Of the three of them, why is Obama the only one who's citizenship and eligibilty for the office he holds questioned? No one has has ever questioned Romney about it, or Trump when he considered a White House run.

I'm listening...

A: Obama spent a prolonged child hood outside of the country.

B: None of them had as a intense primary as Obama did with Hillary Clinton that produced such hard and noxious feelings for the candidate that anything to disqualify him was on the table.

[Dark Sage]

I went to school in Great Britain for two years. Does that make me a subject of the British Crown??

[Roy Karrde]

I went to school in Great Britain for two years. Does that make me a subject of the British Crown??

And where do you get that line of thought? I am just telling you where the questions began to come from. Mind you I do not believe any of this stuff, but tight elections breed conspiracies. How many Democrats believed Bush stole the 2000 election?