2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

Here's a link with more complete data:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...idential-race/

You're counting on Democrats being demoralized? It seems that party affiliations weren't really the issue here, if this is to be believed. More people disapprove of each party than those who approve of it.

[Roy Karrde]

You're counting on Democrats being demoralized? It seems that party affiliations weren't really the issue here, if this is to be believed. More people disapprove of each party than those who approve of it.

I expect that if Walker wins, it will be three major losses for Democrats in this state, and the view is going to start to set in with "We can't win", furthermore there is going to be some SERIOUS anger at Obama, who has done his best NOT to campaign in Wisconsin, even while staying in the adjourning states. Again, coward.

[Dark Sage]

I dunno, Roy...

As you saw in the article, almost all voters had their minds made up weeks ago. I doubt that their opinions are going to change much by the results.

And with Obama ahead by more than ten percentage points on the question of who would be better to help the middle class in a state where the majority is blue-collar workers...

Doesn't seem to me like they're angry at him.

As for why Obama didn't campaign there... Well, would it make much sense for Romney to do a lot of campaigning in Texas? Why would Obama do heavy campaigning in a predominantly blue state?

Edit: And by the way, don't forget... If Walker wins... He still has a possible inditment to worry about.

[Roy Karrde]

I dunno, Roy...

As you saw in the article, almost all voters had their minds made up weeks ago. I doubt that their opinions are going to change much by the results.

And with Obama ahead by more than ten percentage points on the question of who would be better to help the middle class in a state where the majority is blue-collar workers...

Doesn't seem to me like they're angry at him.

There is a difference between making up your mind, and a GOTV effort, having lost three elections in a row, how many Democrats are really want to go and support and work for another one, especially for a guy that didn't help them?

As for why Obama didn't campaign there... Well, would it make much sense for Romney to do a lot of campaigning in Texas? Why would Obama do heavy campaigning in a predominantly blue state?

A: Romney was in Fort Worth Texas today.
B: I am not talking about campaigning for him, I am talking about campaigning for Barrett, this is the President who vowed to walk Union Strike Lines, to be a friend of Unions, but when the Unions need him for a GOTV effort, he is no where to be seen.

Edit: And by the way, don't forget... If Walker wins... He still has a possible inditment to worry about.

And the chances of that actually going far.... yeah I didn't think so.

[Dark Sage]

That does it, it is no use debating with you.

Even with the statistics right in front of you, you try to debunk them.

Heck, you wouldn't admit that the attempt to blame rising gas prices on the President had failed until the fifth straight week of them going down, and even then you said that it was because of the bad economy, and he would be blamed for that.

I'm not coming to this thread any more Roy, because I am firmly convinced that only thing that will get you to admit that Obama has a chance of winning in November is if he actually wins.

Btw... look at an Electoral College chart sometime, why don't you?. If you do, you'll realize that if Obama wins even one of the swing states, he wins the election.

[Roy Karrde]

Heck, you wouldn't admit that the attempt to blame rising gas prices on the President had failed until the fifth straight week of them going down, and even then you said that it was because of the bad economy, and he would be blamed for that.

Dude it IS for the bad economy, you realize that right? It's dropping like a stone because of poor economic numbers. And honestly if you do not think a President will not be held accountable for that then you are kidding yourself.

I'm not coming to this thread any more Roy, because I am firmly convinced that only thing that will get you to admit that Obama has a chance of winning in November is if he actually wins.

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

By the way I have $10 dollars on you will be back in a week? Anyone else want to join in? He's played this game before.

Btw... look at an Electoral College chart sometime, why don't you?. If you do, you'll realize that if Obama wins even one of the swing states, he wins the election.

And he will have to win states he won in 2008, which is becoming exceedingly unlikely.