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    Default Re: 2012 U.S. Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Karrde View Post
    It was not found unconstitutional? They said that you could not use it under the Commerce Clause, that in and of itself makes it unconstitutional. They did suggest it can be used as a tax, but the original use of it was unconstitutional.
    this is not correct

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    ROBERTS, C. J., announced the judgment of the Court and delivered 
    the opinion of the Court with respect to Parts I, II, and III–C, in which 
    GINSBURG, BREYER, SOTOMAYOR, and KAGAN, JJ., joined; an opinion with
    respect to Part IV, in which BREYER  and KAGAN, JJ., joined; and an 
    opinion with respect to Parts III–A, III–B, and III–D. GINSBURG, J., 
    filed an opinion concurring in part, concurring in the judgment in part,
    and dissenting in part, in which SOTOMAYOR, J., joined, and in which
    BREYER and KAGAN, JJ., joined as to Parts I, II, III, and IV.  SCALIA, 
    KENNEDY, THOMAS, and ALITO, JJ., filed a dissenting opinion.  THOMAS, 
    J., filed a dissenting opinion.
    Code:
    CHIEF  JUSTICE  ROBERTS concluded in Part  III–A that the indi-
    vidual mandate is not a valid exercise of Congress’s power under the 
    Commerce Clause and the Necessary and Proper Clause.  Pp. 16–30.
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    CHIEF  JUSTICE  ROBERTS  delivered the opinion of the Court with 
    respect to Part III–C, concluding that the individual mandate may be
    upheld as within Congress’s power under the Taxing Clause.  Pp. 33– 
    44.
    I, II, III-C is the majority opinion and it does not contain the assertion you imply; III-A is not part of the judgement

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    Default Re: 2012 U.S. Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by kurai View Post
    Code:
    CHIEF  JUSTICE  ROBERTS  delivered the opinion of the Court with 
    respect to Part III–C, concluding that the individual mandate may be
    upheld as within Congress’s power under the Taxing Clause.  Pp. 33– 
    44.
    I, II, III-C is the majority opinion and it does not contain the assertion you imply; III-A is not part of the judgement
    In which my point still stands, the finding of 3C is that the Individual Mandate "MAY BE UPHELD" is through the taxation clause, NOT through the Necessary and Proper Clause or the Commerce Clause.
    Last edited by Roy Karrde; 28th June 2012 at 01:26 PM.

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