2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

I see...

It seems like those plans are a lot like what we have now, except that they benefit the insurance companies a lot more than the people who actually buy insurance.

I fail to see anything in those plans that would benefit people who actually needed it.

And as for your accusation, where's the proof that Romney's campaign team actually collected that much? Romney has been known for secret bank accounts and being dihonest with his money, you know, but I've been willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that because all rich people do it.

We have to take both their words for it, Roy. If you're calling Obama's team a bunch of liars, fine, but in that case, I'm not gonna believe Romney's.

[Roy Karrde]

I see...

It seems like those plans are a lot like what we have now, except that they benefit the insurance companies a lot more than the people who actually buy insurance.

I fail to see anything in those plans that would benefit people who actually needed it.

Again as opposed to Obama's plan that forces people to buy from monopolies or be penalized?

And as for your accusation, where's the proof that Romney's campaign team actually collected that much? Romney has been known for secret bank accounts and being dihonest with his money, you know, but I've been willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that because all rich people do it.

You do realize that Political Campaigns can't do that right? Furthermore after the immoral if not illegal activities Obama's Fundraising engaged in 2008, I would not be pointing fingers at anyone.

We have to take both their words for it, Roy. If you're calling Obama's team a bunch of liars, fine, but in that case, I'm not gonna believe Romney's.

Thing is with Romney we have hard and fast numbers, we know how many donators, we know the money donated. Obama has said NOTHING to that effect on it's own numbers. If we are to believe both campaign's shouldn't we have the numbers for both atleast? That is holding both up to the same standard.

[Dark Sage]

Maybe it's simply not their policy to release actual numbers.

Anyway, I've had enough of this for today, I have things to do. I'll leave by saying this: The Affordable Health Care Act has more supporters than you may think.

I was watching live coverage yesterday as the ruling was announced. Quite a crowd of people had gathered outside the Federal Courthouse, and seeing as the crowd's reaction to the ruling was very positive, I'd say that they had come intending to protest the Court's much-expected negative ruling on the measure.

[Roy Karrde]

Maybe it's simply not their policy to release actual numbers.

Really? So why do they release fundraising numbers every month? Maybe, just maybe, they do not actually have the money coming in? And this is part of a pathetic spin to try to stop Romney's victory?

Anyway, I've had enough of this for today, I have things to do. I'll leave by saying this: The Affordable Health Care Act has more supporters than you may think.

I was watching live coverage yesterday as the ruling was announced. Quite a crowd of people had gathered outside the Federal Courthouse, and seeing as the crowd's reaction to the ruling was very positive, I'd say that they had come intending to protest the Court's much-expected negative ruling on the measure.

So we are judging popularity now based on one event we see on TV? By that faulty logic we can go to a Tea Party rally and see that not only does quite alot of people in this country believe that Obama should be voted out, but that Obamacare is wrong.

[Dark Sage]

Really? So why do they release fundraising numbers every month? Maybe, just maybe, they do not actually have the money coming in? And this is part of a pathetic spin to try to stop Romney's victory?

The Obama campaign had told HuffPost on Thursday that it would not be releasing fundraising numbers for the day and does not discuss precise numbers except in regards to its filings with the Federal Election Commission.

There. It's not their policy. Stop calling Obama's team liars.

[Roy Karrde]

There. It's not their policy.

So if they are not going to make it their policy to release the numbers for that day, then why did the tout it out at all? It makes them look pretty pathetic for not doing so.

[Dark Sage]

It went with THIS statement:

"It's perverse that Mitt Romney won't share details about what he'd do for the millions he'd leave uninsured or at the whims of insurance companies when he 'kills Obamacare dead,' but he'll share the hourly details of his fundraising after the Supreme Court ruling," wrote Obama campaign communications director Ben LaBolt. "We've outraised the Romney campaign in that time period but that's not the point -- our supporters are more committed than ever to ensuring that insurance companies can't drop coverage for people who get sick or discriminate against people with preexisting conditions by reelecting the President."