2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

As I said before, Roy, YOU are calling them liars.

Romney himself apparently does not have the nerve to do so. When asked if they were lying, he didn't give a straight answer.

[Roy Karrde]

As I said before, Roy, YOU are calling them liars.

Romney himself apparently does not have the nerve to do so. When asked if they were lying, he didn't give a straight answer.

It doesn't matter if it is a lie or not ( And it is as according to Washington Post and Fact Checker ). You do not call your opponent a criminal, period, end of story.

[Dark Sage]

Again, I don't recall Mr. Obama himself saying it.

In fact, he has not confirmed or denied anything in this whole issue.

Now, I am not saying that these accusations are true or not, but I will say that they are a lot more believable than the Birther accusations made against Mr. Obama., as you say they are.

I would personally rate the validity of the claims made by the Birthers alongside the claims that Elvis is still alive.

[Roy Karrde]

Again, I don't recall Mr. Obama himself saying it.

In fact, he has not confirmed or denied anything in this whole issue.

Now, I am not saying that these accusations are true or not, but I will say that they are a lot more believable than the Birther accusations made against Mr. Obama., as you say they are.

I would personally rate the validity of the claims made by the Birthers alongside the claims that Elvis is still alive.

A: It came by Obama's own campaign, thus he owns it because as Obama has said, the buck stops with him.

B: When given a chance to denounce what his campaign said he denied it.

C: The validity of the argument has already been destroyed both by Fact Checker and Washington Post so again the believability of it is at the same of the debunked birther arguments.

If Obama values the office of the Presidency then he needs to fire the idiots who pushed this view point and apologize to Romney. Then again this is Obama we are talking about...

[Dark Sage]

And Romney needs to disavow his association with Trump and SuperPACs run by bigots.

Your point?

[Roy Karrde]

And Romney needs to disavow his association with Trump and SuperPACs run by bigots.

Your point?

One is a actual part of your campaign and your underling who works at your discretion and speaks directly for your campaign, the other isn't?

Neither Trump nor any SuperPACs are employees Romney, he cannot fire them, they are not on his payroll unlike these employees of Obama.

[Dark Sage]

But he can refuse to accept money from them and stop letting them host fundraisers for him.

Which I doubt he'll do.