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17th July 2012, 11:42 PM
#10

Master Trainer
Re: 2012 U.S. Presidential Election
an interesting standard of proof, given that proving that he has actually committed the crime would require a trial. [consider that factcheck's analysis entirely hinges on whether or not romney "left active management" whereas his filing claims non-involvement "in any way". this fails to address the issue of whether or not his legally required participation in the SEC filings is one such way.]
if, as you argue, it is unimportant whether or not romney concealed information in federal filings, we can establish by parity of reasoning that it would not matter if the obama campaign misrepresents pretty much anything else. despite this, somehow we find the argument that the development of candidate distrust will only occur on one side - this is implausible.
thus, it is certainly pathetic to expect a certain standard of honesty from one's executive. rest assured that any claims of misrepresentation coming out of the campaigns can now be cast aside as meaningless. whether or not one's leader is a liar is inconsequential - even if perjury is an indictable and impeachable offense, only campaign promises about economic development are relevant to the decisions of the electorate. this is why no campaign ever mentions anything other than economic policy. it is curious to see the repeated presentation of marxist doctrine - that the political superstructure will necessarily and ultimately reflect economic conditions. it is immediately apparent that even if this is the case, intermediate causal points can and will reflect different priorities.
additionally, i believe you will find that the public already went "full retard" in their public decision on whether or not obama was qualified for office. in spite of efforts to the contrary, no adequate argument was produced that could persuade people that obama was unlawfully misrepresenting himself, and he was elected to the presidency. if new evidence exists to overturn this decision, let it be presented. this is the essence of a trial by election.
it is entirely plausible that other factors must play into the election, but success brings vindication on such issues of material fact. obama won and it was decided that he was not born in kenya, perhaps romney will win and it will be clear that he was not a perjurer. that such judgement ought to be conducted by the public is entirely compatible with the existing political system.
Last edited by kurai; 17th July 2012 at 11:54 PM.
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