2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

Roy, really, there's no need for profanity...

And Romney has an easy way to remedy this, assuming he has nothing to hide...

If he released his tax forms, Reid would officially replace Orly Taitz for the title of Biggest Idiot in Politics.

Not only that, the disgrace that the Obama camp would suffer due to Reid being caught in a lie would push Romney ahead in the polls.

But Romney won't do it. Why? He certainly has the power, so why doesn't he?

[Roy Karrde]

Roy, really, there's no need for profanity...

Dark, you are a good person, you are a pretty damn good debater, this argument is beneath you. It is beneath the Democratic Party, it is beneath the dignity of the Senate, and it is certainly beneath the dignity of the leadership of the Senate.

There is a line I remember from one of my favorite Episodes of the West Wing "Bartlett for America." During the questioning of the White House Chief of Staff, one of the Republican Senators goes too far and questions about his personal life. Another Republican Senator comes to him and says something profound. "This is why good people hate us".

Well Dark Sage, look at this argument and who is speaking it. "This is why good people hate the Democratic Party."

And Romney has an easy way to remedy this, assuming he has nothing to hide...

If he released his tax forms, Reid would officially replace Orly Taitz for the title of Biggest Idiot in Politics.

Not only that, the disgrace that the Obama camp would suffer due to Reid being caught in a lie would push Romney ahead in the polls.

But Romney won't do it. Why? He certainly has the power, so why doesn't he?

Lets rephrase this shall we?

"And Obama has an easy way to remedy this, assuming he has nothing to hide...

If he released his long form birth certificate, Trump would officially replace Orly Taitz for the title of Biggest Idiot in Politics.

Not only that, the disgrace that the Romney camp would suffer due to Trump being caught in a lie would push Obama ahead in the polls.

But Obama won't do it. Why? He certainly has the power, so why doesn't he?"

Congratulations Dark Sage, you are now a birther, I dub thee Zeroer or what ever name eventually is dubbed for people that engage in such stupidity.

And what are your views on birthers?

He's an embarrassment to the GOP, in fact, as is anyone who persists with the Birther balony.

By your logic, you are a embarrassment to the Democratic party, as is Harry Reid.

[Dark Sage]

Maybe if Romney had the backbone to publically condemn the Birthers, I'd be willing to take his word for it. And respect him.

But no Republican will. Know why?

They don't want to lose votes.

And fyi, Obama DID release it. And the Birthers ARE a laughingstock because of it. The whole business has seriously hurt the GOP.

[Roy Karrde]

Maybe if Romney had the backbone to publically condemn the Birthers, I'd be willing to take his word for it. And respect him.

But no Republican will. Know why?

They don't want to lose votes.

Same excuse could go for the Democrats and the Truthers, or now Harry Reid and the Zeroers.

But here is the thing, you do not need to take his word for it, you need to use your head. Look at what Harry Reid is saying and ask you this.

A: What is Harry Reid's Proof?
B: How did Harry Reid's Source get proof that only 3 people know about ( Romney, His Wife, His Tax Attorney ).
C: Why hasn't the IRS audited him when he was a Governor?
D: Why hasn't the IRS audited him when he was a CEO?
E: Why hasn't the IRS audited him when he was a Presidential Candidate in 2008?

The sheer implausibility and stupidity of it should debunk it immediately. You do not have to like Romney, you just have to use your head.

And fyi, Obama DID release it. And the Birthers ARE a laughingstock because of it. The whole business has seriously hurt the GOP.

Obama released the short form, the birthers asked for the long form, Romney has released two years of tax returns, the Zeroers are asking for 10.

By the way, want to talk about what is hurting who? Lets look at some of the coverage.

ABC News: Jonathan KARL: He was responding to an outrageous and apparently unfounded allegation from Harry Reid, the top Democrat in the Senate.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wi...#ixzz22cuNvCHu

NY Times: Mr. Reid appears to be once again reprising a rhetorical technique he has mastered over 25 years in the Senate: repeatedly needling his Republican adversaries in ways that often push the boundaries of political propriety.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/pj-glad...#ixzz22cubSzVs

Which party is being seriously hurt right now I ask?

[Dark Sage]

Call me crazy, but I don't see the term "Zeroers" catching on very fast.

[Roy Karrde]

Call me crazy, but I don't see the term "Zeroers" catching on very fast.

I know I created it just to dub it something, what is however catching on, well Harry Reid's possible record of Child Molestation and Murder, there is even a twitter feed for his despicable yet unproven crimes.

https://twitter.com/AceofSpadesHQ

Those poor poor alleged children, what horrors has Harry Reid subjected them to.

[Dark Sage]

Roy, you'll notice I never called Romney a tax cheat, or actually said I believed Reid's accusation.

Here's my honest opinion:

Reid is, in effect, playing "politics", trying to bait Romney until he releases those returns, which is what everyone wants. The Democrats want the public to see the exact numbers.

It's a gambit, of course. Will it pay off? I don't know.