2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

In other news...

I have yet to find a pundit who has given a negative review of Bill Clinton's speech. The only complaint anyone had with it is that it was long.

Now, I confess that I didn't watch it live myself. I was on my way to work at the time to work third shift. But from what I'm seeing in bits and pieces, he didn't need to resort to mudslinging and distorting the truth in order to get people's attention, something he did very well. He barely even mentioned Romney.

And btw, the DNC was standing-room-only last night. So many people were trying to get in, many were turned away, it was so crowded. I think we can now say that the assumption that they were lacking in attendance was wishful thinking by the GOP.

[Roy Karrde]

And btw, the DNC was standing-room-only last night. So many people were trying to get in, many were turned away, it was so crowded. I think we can now say that the assumption that they were lacking in attendance was wishful thinking by the GOP.

The GOP was talking about the lack of attendance for Obama's speech at the stadium. Turning people away from a convention that can only fill 22,000 seats, is a far cry from being able to fill 75,000 seats.

BTW last night's ratings are in, NBC pulled in the best with 20+ Million, drawfing ABC and CBS's 3 million viewers... then again NBC was not showing the DNC and showing Football.

[Dark Sage]

I'm not surprised Roy, more people tend to watch the premier of football season than political events. That's why NBC changed its schedule and held opening day last nght instead of tonight when Mr. Obama would be making his speech.

You have the ratings for day two of the RNC to compare?

[Roy Karrde]

You have the ratings for day two of the RNC to compare?

RNC night two of the three networks was 9.4 million cumulative total ( Excluding Cable Networks ).

DNC night two of the two networks that aired it was 7.3 million cumulative total.

I excluded the cable networks and only included the three networks because not everyone has cable/satellite, and ABC/CBS would pick up alot of the drop off from NBC for those that decided to watch it over football.

[Dark Sage]

And night one of the DNC was 26.2 million people total.

http://www.wsbtv.com/ap/ap/entertain...gs-race/nR4Mr/

Seems they beat the RNC for that one.

As you said, Roy, day two of the RNC had two million more viewers, however... As you admitted, the RNC did not go against such overwhelming competition that night.

I'd love for both conventions to be held at the same time to truly see which one wins in the ratings, but unfortunatly, things do not work that way.

Edit: On another note, even some GOP political analysists are saying that Mr. Clinton's speech was better than anything that the RNC had.

Alex Castellanos, a longtime cable commentator and former aide to Mitt Romney, said this about it:

"I would recommend to my friend Paul [Begala] here, tonight when everybody leaves, lock the doors. You don't have to come back tomorrow. This convention is done. This will be the moment that probably reelected Barack Obama. Bill Clinton saved the Democratic Party once, it was going too far left, he came in, the new Democrats took it to the center. He did it again tonight."

I should note that the best retort that most GOTPers can make about Mr. Clinton at this point is to keep reminding us of the Lewinsky scandal. They can do that until they're blue in the face, but no-one will care. Mr. Clinton's approval rating was still 60%, better than his predecessor or his successor, and he remains the most potent force that the Democrats have.

[Roy Karrde]

I should note that the best retort that most GOTPers can make about Mr. Clinton at this point is to keep reminding us of the Lewinsky scandal. They can do that until they're blue in the face, but no-one will care. Mr. Clinton's approval rating was still 60%, better than his predecessor or his successor, and he remains the most potent force that the Democrats have.

Actually this is what they are saying about Clinton this morning.


Personally I wish the GOP would go after Clinton for setting us on a course that led to the economic downfall of 2008, but using his own words against Obama is just as good.

Edit: BTW where is Joe Biden? Don't Vice Presidents speak on the second night?

[Dark Sage]

Edit: BTW where is Joe Biden? Don't Vice Presidents speak on the second night?

They originally planned the convention for four nights, but the bad weather cut it to three. Due to the fact that much of the DNC was going to be held in an open-air setting. And that is far from the only setback that the forecast caused.

You think that the bad weather excuse was a sham? I doubt that they would incovenience themselves this much because of a lack of attendence, and then lie about it.

[Dark Sage]

Interesting. On the National Weather Map there are thunderstorms that start southwest of Charlotte and extend across the state. It has been raining in central NC since early afternoon... Monsoon rain with thunder and lightning.

Seems that the theory of an "unfilled stadium" fear lost a great deal more support...

[Roy Karrde]

Interesting. On the National Weather Map there are thunderstorms that start southwest of Charlotte and extend across the state. It has been raining in central NC since early afternoon... Monsoon rain with thunder and lightning.

Seems that the theory of an "unfilled stadium" fear lost a great deal more support...

I would suggest going to Weather.com and clicking on the interactive map, the storms are moving AWAY from Charlotte, and the storms heading that way are dying out ( No Sunlight = No Power = Dead Storms ), right now it is Partly Cloudy and expected to be that way for the rest of the night.

The Romney Campaign has issued a statement asking for the Obama Campaign to reign in it's supporters who have gone insane with their Nazi comparisons.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...-nazi-comments

If the left is getting this scared that they are resorting to calling their opponents Nazis, I can't wait till October.

[Heald]

If the left is getting this scared that they are resorting to calling their opponents Nazis, I can't wait till October.

Tea Party supporters have also repeatedly compared Obama and the Democrats to Hitler or Stalin so the door swings both ways.

[Roy Karrde]

Tea Party supporters have also repeatedly compared Obama and the Democrats to Hitler or Stalin so the door swings both ways.

Yeah but I don't really compare those at rallies, to actual elected officials.

Edit: As you know, the DNC had a surprise guest of their own: Gabirel Giffords, reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.

Anyone who thinks that Eastwood yelling at an empty chair was better than that is free to live with his delusions. I won't argue about it.

I don't really think that is a true comparison, Gabby Giffords had probably been scheduled to be there for months, and was not there to make a political speech.

By the way the unemployment numbers came out today, and... Good God they are terrible.

[Dark Sage]

This made me laugh...

Edit: As you know, the DNC had a surprise guest of their own: Gabirel Giffords, reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.

Anyone who thinks that Eastwood yelling at an empty chair was better than that is free to live with his delusions. I won't argue about it.

Btw, the words "under God" were NOT left out of the Pledge, and this time, the audience appeared to approve.