2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

Anyone who thinks that $200k a year is "middle-income" is crazy. It's upper-class.

[Roy Karrde]

Anyone who thinks that $200k a year is "middle-income" is crazy. It's upper-class.

Guess you never lived in New York before, or many other big cities, as the cost of living there, the taxes, and numerous other costs can quickly rack up. For example in New York making $60,000 and living in Manhattan is equivalent to someone making $26,092 elsewhere.

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009...ive-urban-area

[Dark Sage]

Roy, the cost of living in Washington Depot, Connecticut, where my parents live, is even higher. A lot of rich people from Europe live there, and several celebrities like Woody Allen have homes there.

My parents have a very large house that is now fully paid for, two cars, and they recently took a Mediterranean Cruise for their summer vacation. Before they did that, they paid for a VIP trip to Disney World for my three-year-old niece, Sofia. I have the pictures of her with cosplay actors dressed as Cinderella and Snow White at the resort's best restaurants.

And yet... Their salary has never reached $200K for either of them.

If a salary like that is middle-income for someone living anywhere, then I'm the King of England.

[Roy Karrde]

Roy, the cost of living in Washington Depot, Connecticut, where my parents live, is even higher. A lot of rich people from Europe live there, and several celebrities like Woody Allen have homes there.

My parents have a very large house that is now fully paid for, two cars, and they recently took a Mediterranean Cruise for their summer vacation. Before they did that, they paid for a VIP trip to Disney World for my three-year-old niece, Sofia. I have the pictures of her with cosplay actors dressed as Cinderella and Snow White at the resort's best restaurants.

And yet... Their salary has never reached $200K for either of them.

If a salary like that is middle-income for someone living anywhere, then I'm the King of England.

You know I am not getting into a arguing match with you about cost of living, the facts speak for themselves, and that is that New York and other cities have a insane cost of living, in which $200,000 and $250,000 for a couple barely breaks upper middle class.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0..._Orange_County
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009...ive-urban-area

But as I said before, there are more important things to focus on right now.

[Dark Sage]

True... The riots in the Middle East which were started by a rather awful Indy movie that has been condemned by the President, the Secretary of State, and most everyone else, which you claim was his right to release.

[Roy Karrde]

True... The riots in the Middle East which were started by a rather awful Indy movie that has been condemned by the President, the Secretary of State, and most everyone else, which you claim was his right to release.

Well I, and the Constitution/Bill of Rights....

But that hasn't stopped this administration from trying to pull it and deny this guy his freedom of speech.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2...lm-135586.html

Kind of sad, if not scary, when the Government tries to pull video off the internet from a private citizen.

[Dark Sage]

Believe me, Roy... Not many people are taking his side...