2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

Btw, Roy, when a respectable American news agency finds the time to focus on this incredibly serious - and likely impeachable - accusation you are trying to make against the President, then I'll consider that it has any merit in fact. But not before.

[Roy Karrde]

Btw, Roy, when a respectable American news agency finds the time to focus on this incredibly serious - and likely impeachable - accusation you are trying to make against the President, then I'll consider that it has any merit in fact. But not before.

So now we do not consider the BBC as being respectable? That it has to be American?

Gavin, Muslims consider any depiction of the Prophet Mohammed to be a blasphemy, letalone one that depicts him as a womanizer and a pedophile.

Not to go off topic, but Mohammad was kind of a womanizer and a pedophile, obviously not to the stupidity that the movie takes it. But the guy did have multiple wives and did screw a 9 year old girl.

[Dark Sage]

After the way the British media treated Amanda Knox, I have no respect for them.

None at all.

So the answer to your question, in my eyes, is no, I do not consider them respectable.

Not to go off topic, but Mohammad was kind of a womanizer and a pedophile, obviously not to the stupidity that the movie takes it. But the guy did have multiple wives and did screw a 9 year old girl.

King Solomon, according to legend, had 700 wives and 300 concubines, but both Jews and Christians alike speak very highly of him.

[Blademaster]

After the way the British media treated Amanda Knox, I have no respect for them.

None at all.

So the answer to your question, in my eyes, is no, I do not consider them respectable.

It's that kind of utterly unflinching and absolute condemnation of a nationwide cultural aspect that leads to buildings being firebombed and ambassadors killed. Just saying. Please don't contribute more of it to the world - it doesn't need it.

[Heald]

After the way the British media treated Amanda Knox, I have no respect for them.

None at all.

So the answer to your question, in my eyes, is no, I do not consider them respectable.

1) Amanda Knox repeatedly and provably lied in her testimony and she evidently tampered with the crime scene to cover up her involvement in it. Regardless of innocence or guilt, she perverted the course of justice and so justifiably attracted ire from the nation of the girl who was murdered.

2) US media regularly dumps on the rest of the world, so don't try to claim the moral high ground - the USA has probably the worst non-state owned mass media on the planet in terms of rampant jingoism.

[Dark Sage]

Give me a break, Heald.

That crazy prosecutor accused her of belonging to a Satanic cult (which may not even exist) and of killing Meredith in a Halloween-inspired ritual killing. And he had made a similar accusation against another defendant in a previous case. Long story short, he believes in withcraft, in this day and age. And that's only the gravest example of why his case was flawed.

It was obvious the first time that she and her boyfriend were innocent. Ask any respectable American lawyer, legal expert, or law professor. I have yet to hear from one who even believes that she would have been brought to trial if it had happened here. But public perception of her in Europe due in part to the press swayed the jury.

Edit: Btw, I'm surprised you're defending the press in Europe, after a French magazine is publishing indecent pictures of Kate Middleton that a peeping tom paparazzi snapped.

[Heald]

That crazy prosecutor accused her of belonging to a Satanic cult (which may not even exist) and of killing Meredith in a Halloween-inspired ritual killing. And he had made a similar accusation against another defendant in a previous case. Long story short, he believes in withcraft, in this day and age. And that's only the gravest example of why his case was flawed.

And how does this relate to the British press?

It was obvious the first time that she and her boyfriend were innocent. Ask any respectable American lawyer, legal expert, or law professor. I have yet to hear from one who even believes that she would have been brought to trial if it had happened here. But public perception of her in Europe due in part to the press swayed the jury.

Again, nothing to do with the British press.

Edit: Btw, I'm surprised you're defending the press in Europe, after a French magazine is publishing indecent pictures of Kate Middleton that a peeping tom paparazzi snapped.

Nothing to do with the British press.

Next time you decide to try and talk about something in which you have not a single clue in the subject matter, don't.

[Dark Sage]

Next time you decide to try and talk about something in which you have not a single clue in the subject matter, don't.

Actually, Heald, I've studied the Kersher case intently for the past five years, and I even wrote an essay on it. I know better than most people how much the British press crucified that poor woman.

And you know something? Right now, the only reason why I'm not leaving this thread in disgust would be because Roy would accuse me of running away from an arguement because I was losing it, and I refuse to let him do that. The polls clearly say that Obama is in the lead, but he's making up every excuse he can think of to debunk them. Justl like... Just like a Republican.


Edit: Btw, I was curious, so I looked up the 13-minute film on YouTube and watched it. Putting the controversy aside, if I were to give my opinion on it strictly as a movie, I would say that it was... Absolute garbage.

Seriously, calling this director a third-rate amateur would be too kind.