2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

Three days before the deadly assault on the United States consulate in Libya, a local security official says he met with American diplomats in the city and warned them about deteriorating security.

Does it say that the State Department or President was among the ones informed?

No.

Did it warn them that an attack was coming?

No. It warned them about the bad state of security.

By the way, I'm sick of the whole "teleprompter thing". EVERY politician uses them. Take a look at a story that sheds some light on this big joke that the GOP is so fond of mocking Obama with:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...ivL_story.html

[Roy Karrde]

Does it say that the State Department or President was among the ones informed?

No.

Did it warn them that an attack was coming?

No. It warned them about the bad state of security.

So... you are saying the diplomats did not forward it onto the state department as is their job? And last time I checked a deteriorating state is a warming of a intimate possible attack. But then again I do not have the wonderful experience the state department has.

[Dark Sage]

The State Department gets dozens of warnings a day, and most are baseless. They wouldn't have time to do their jobs if they had to sound a red alert for each one.

Can you please tell me why this one stood out any more than all the others?

Btw, I suppose if I were to bring up the widely known accusation that Bush had ample warning of the 9/11 attacks, you would call me crazy, right?

[Roy Karrde]

The State Department gets dozens of warnings a day, and most are baseless. They wouldn't have time to do their jobs if they had to sound a red alert for each one.

Can you please tell me why this one stood out any more than all the others?

Btw, I suppose if I were to bring up the widely known accusation that Bush had ample warning of the 9/11 attacks, you would call me crazy, right?

I would say that was a pre 9/11 mindset and this was not.

As for why this stood out? It came directly from their contacts and there is ample evidence that those at the consulate were afraid for their lives. So to compare this to say a simple call in from a prank caller would be wrong.

[Dark Sage]

My supervisor at work was in the Marines, and was stationed in the Middle East.

I told him about your theory the other night, and the State Department's reponse to it, and he agrees with the State Department. He told me that a day in which his CO got less than ten threats on his life or his unit was considered, by the CO, "a slow day".

[Roy Karrde]

My supervisor at work was in the Marines, and was stationed in the Middle East.

I told him about your theory the other night, and the State Department's reponse to it, and he agrees with the State Department. He told me that a day in which his CO got less than ten threats on his life or his unit was considered, by the CO, "a slow day".

And being in the marines is remarkably different than being a peace officer in a dangerous area with little to no protection other than a locked door.

Again I will say this was not a prank caller, this came from informants in a area that had already experienced IED attacks

[Dark Sage]

Okay, answer me this if you will.

If you are so certain that Mr. Obama’s gross negligence caused him to ignore an obvious threat that led to four American deaths…

Then why did Romney’s most recent speech in Belmont not focus on this likely cause for impeachment, and instead focus on how Obama has contributed to the “fiscal cliff” that is looming at the end of the year? (Something that you could probably blame more on our lazy Congress cancelling all of its October sessions.)

I would love to accuse Romney of being a wimp, as George H. W. Bush’s rivals were so fond of calling him, but I have a more logical answer: Romney has at least some brains in his head, and knows that he would never get away with making such serious accusations against his opponent.

But if you’re so sure that they’re true… Feel free to pursue them.

Edit: Here's something else to consider.

This baseless accusation you make against Mr. Obama makes me think of how tempting – and easy – it would be to make baseless accusations against Romney.

As you know, Mr. Obama has been slandered repeatedly by people who say he’s a Muslim. Romney does not deny being a Mormon, and there are many who would say that his faith is worse than Islam.

Mormonism is a relatively new religion, compared to Islam, which has been around for thousands of years, so many consider it a cult. It was founded by a man who was clearly a bigot, who claimed that he was more important than Jesus.

The Book of Mormon claims that dark skin is a punishment from God, and Mormons did not acknowledge that blacks were even human until 1965.

Thus, it is very tempting for me to accuse Romney of being a bigot who belongs to a false religion, and it would be very easy for me to do so. But I do not do so. Despite the fact that he bullied a gay classmate while he was in prep school, I can’t say with certainty that such things are true, and I will not make baseless accusations.

You should not either.