2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Roy Karrde]

You seem to forget, Roy, that was the only time thusfar that Mr. Obama has claimed Executive Privledge.

Compare that to Bush, who did so six times.

And that means Obama won't do it again to protect sensitive documents that could undermine the State Department? Say reports from the Consulate about how dangerous the situation is getting? And lets not forget that Obama being the "Constitutional Law Professor with 4 years of experience" incorrectly used Executive Privilege.

And I see you have not tried to defend Ryan.

Ryan was speaking of 23 million Americans that are underemployed or unemployed, last time I checked if you are underemployed you are still struggling to find work, and just taking what ever you can to currently make ends meet. As such to say Ryan lied would be... false.

[Dark Sage]

That's your opinion.

And the whole thing WAS a witch hunt. (Note I use past tense, because I'm sure it won't go any further.) To give a comparison, they could have arrested Rove any time they wanted to. The whole thing with Holder is dirty politics.

And I haven't given up. I just think your argument is so pathetic, that there's no point in talking about. I have not heard anyone on Capitol Hill mention this accusation at all, or speak of this investigation you say they are doing.

[Roy Karrde]

That's your opinion.

No.. that is the law, you cannot use Executive privilege to cover up a crime.

And the whole thing WAS a witch hunt. (Note I use past tense, because I'm sure it won't go any further.)

You may have noticed they have filed with the court?

To give a comparison, they could have arrested Rove any time they wanted to. The whole thing with Holder is dirty politics.

So trying to bring Holder to Justice for his crimes is now just dirty politics?

But please continue to compare the political works of Karl Rove to the DEATH of a U.S. Citizen

By the way I have edited my post to update for the Ryan comment.

[Dark Sage]

Btw, Roy, when I typed the words "Obama consulate investigation" into Google, all I got was this:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...-on-consulate/

As you can see, it's a story by Fox News that doesn't even address the accusation you made at all, and certainly doesn't say that Congress is investigating any suspicions of neglect on the President's part.

Ryan was speaking of 23 million Americans that are underemployed or unemployed, last time I checked if you are underemployed you are still struggling to find work, and just taking what ever you can to currently make ends meet. As such to say Ryan lied would be... false.

Good grief Roy, even Ryan himself had no defense when he was caught, and now you're making excuses for him?

[Roy Karrde]

Btw, Roy, when I typed the words "Obama consulate investigation" into Google, all I got was this:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...-on-consulate/

As you can see, it's a story by Fox News that doesn't even address the accusation you made at all, and certainly doesn't say that Congress is investigating any suspicions of neglect on the President's part.

Have I not maintained for many of the past few posts that the problems lie with the State Department? You are the one that seem to be bringing the President into this, not me.

Good grief Roy, even Ryan himself had no defense when he was caught, and now you're making excuses for him?

No I am stating a fact, there are 23 Million Underemployed or Unemployed, and Underemployed is measured by and I quote. "Underemployment refers to an employment situation that is insufficient in some important way for the worker, relative to a standard. Examples include holding a part-time job despite desiring full-time work, and overqualification, where the employee has education, experience, or skills beyond the requirements of the job"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underemployment

That fits perfectly into being a person still struggling to find work.

By the way I will note that the article has no response from Paul Ryan, as such it is false to claim that he has "No Defense".

[Dark Sage]

"here is what we got: prolonged joblessness across the country. 23 million Americans struggling to find work."

Did he say "underemployed"? No, he didn't. He first said "joblessness", as in without jobs, which implied that his "23 million" comment suggested people without jobs.

If the legal definition for "struggling to find work" is actually "underemployed", then I demand proof.

And Wikia is NOT an official source.

[Roy Karrde]

Did he say "underemployed"? No, he didn't. He first said "joblessness", as in without jobs, which implied that his "23 million" comment suggested people without jobs.

If the legal definition for "struggling to find work" is actually "underemployed", then I demand proof.

And Wikia is NOT an official source.

Here is what he said: "here is what we got: prolonged joblessness across the country. 23 million Americans struggling to find work."

Prolonged joblessness drives people to find work anyway they can, and struggle to find work in the field that they are actually qualified for, thus the reason for the underemployed number.