2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

Want to know some more of Romney’s lies? I know a bunch of them:

Romney said: "Redistribution" has "never been a characteristic of America."

The truth is: He clearly didn’t do well in history class. It’s been around for a long time, and been a key factor in the administrations of several Presidents, many of them Republicans.

Romney said: Barack Obama began his presidency "with an apology tour."

The truth is: He made two formal apologies during his whole term – towards the end of it.

Romney said: "Under Obama’s plan (for welfare), you wouldn’t have to work and wouldn’t have to train for a job. They just send you your welfare check."

The truth is: That's a drastic distortion of the planned changes to Temporary Assistance to Needy Families. By granting waivers to states, the Obama administration is seeking to make welfare-to-work efforts more successful, not end them. What’s more, the waivers would apply to individually evaluated pilot programs -- HHS is not proposing a blanket, national change to welfare law.

Romney says: President Barack Obama is "ending Medicare as we know it."

The truth is: Not even close.

Romney says: Ronald Reagan’s philosophy of "peace through strength" is why "the Iranians released the hostages on the same day and at the same hour that Reagan was sworn in."

The truth is: Reagan did a lot of things, but this was not one of them. Seven political scholars agree that Reagan’s foreign policy approach was either a minor factor in the release of the hostages or not a factor at all. The fact that the deal was negotiated entirely by the Carter administration, without involvement by Reagan or his transition team, seems to support the expert consensus.

Romney says: In the 2012 State of the Union address, President Obama "didn't even mention the deficit or debt."

The truth is: Try six times, Mr. Romney

Romney says: The U.S. military is at risk of losing its "military superiority" because "our Navy is smaller than it's been since 1917. Our Air Force is smaller and older than any time since 1947."

The truth is: Thanks to the development of everything from nuclear weapons to drones, comparing today’s military to that of 60 to 100 years ago presents an egregious comparison of apples and oranges. He might as well say that our horse cavalry isn’t what it used to be either.

Romney says: "We're only inches away from no longer being a free economy." He has said this three times.

The truth is: Despite the government’s high spending due to the recession, the U.S. ranks low in both total tax burden and high in economic freedom. Romney can make this claim as many times as he wants, but that doesn’t make it true.

I could go on, but I think I’ve made my point.

[Roy Karrde]

I could go on, but I think I’ve made my point.

And I could go on and on about Obama, however as I said at the end of the day, I was not the one that said a liar should not be elected.

[Dark Sage]

By that logic, almost no-one in Washington deserves to be President.

I doubt you'd ever find a truly honest politician. As I've said before, one of George Washington's few ideas that was unpopular was that the concept of political parties was a bad idea. He was right, of course, but by the time anyone realized it, it was too late.

The question now is who the bigger liar is. I won't say who it is, but I will say that the GOP isn't exactly putting on a very big display of honesty. Bachmann and Palin have an even bigger percentage of Pants of Fire comments on PolitiFact than Romney.

[Roy Karrde]

The question now is who the bigger liar is.

How about the question being who will better fix the economy? Some one who has a solid career of turning things around. Or some one who has been responsible for the last four years.

[Dark Sage]

By the way, correcting a previous post, I meant Iowa, not Idaho.

Idaho is a pretty red state, not a swing state, and early voting has not started there. I meant Iowa.

I apologize to residents of either state for getting them mixed up.

Edit: Obama is ahead in the Rasmussen Reports again.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll