2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

Hotair is a conservative website. If Mr. Obama said that the sky was blue, they'd find fault in it. Don't deny it.

[Roy Karrde]

Hotair is a conservative website. If Mr. Obama said that the sky was blue, they'd find fault in it. Don't deny it.

They are also referencing a Washington Post/Politico poll which found that Democratic Enthusiasm is now on the decline now that the convention bubble has popped. But Dark Sage, honestly I can only ask if you would please give weight to what is said on the site, and not strictly the site's politics. So far you have put down Hot Air, Univision, Fox News, and any British Newspaper with out any real cause. That is just poor debating.

[Dark Sage]

And you have put down much bigger, far more respected news agencies, including the CBS Evening News, CNN, and MSNBC, accusing them of bias.

I just read that link, and I note that they are also quoting PolitiFact, a website that you recently accused of being inaccurate and biased. Which is it, Roy? You can't have both.

[Roy Karrde]

And you have put down much bigger, far more respected news agencies, including the CBS Evening News, CNN, and MSNBC, accusing them of bias.

Yet I would ask for you to find examples in which I outright dismissed the information presented. Based solely on the site.

I just read that link, and I note that they are also quoting PolitiFact, a website that you recently accused of being inaccurate and biased. Which is it, Roy? You can't have both.

Here is the relevant text.

Democratic intensity has slipped slightly to 75 percent. A week before last, still in the afterglow of their convention, 81 percent of Democrats called themselves “extremely likely” to vote. Republican enthusiasm, meanwhile, held steady around 80 percent.

And you mind showing where the quote is from PolitiFact?

[Dark Sage]

I apologize. I was Politico.

That poll may, indeed, be accurate, but voter turnout may not be that high for either condidate. The turnout in the 2004 U.S. presidential election, wasn't that high for either Bush or Kerry; it was close to 60%. Even so, it resulted in a record number of popular votes for both candidates; despite losing the election, Kerry even surpassed Ronald Reagan's 1984 record in terms of the number of popular votes received.

The poll may show 80% for Republicans and 75% for Democrats, but that would be a stretch for either of them if it happened.

[Roy Karrde]

I apologize. I was Politico.

That poll may, indeed, be accurate, but voter turnout may not be that high for either condidate. The turnout in the 2004 U.S. presidential election, wasn't that high for either Bush or Kerry; it was close to 60%. Even so, it resulted in a record number of popular votes for both candidates; despite losing the election, Kerry even surpassed Ronald Reagan's 1984 record in terms of the number of popular votes received.

The poll may show 80% for Republicans and 75% for Democrats, but that would be a stretch for either of them if it happened.

Honestly I see voter turnout being ever so slightly higher on the Republican side than the Democrats if not them being largely even. Republicans have been aching to get rid of Obama ever since the Tea Party and Obamacare. The 2010 elections were a example of that with turnout even, but Republicans overwhelming winning. That is why polls in many of these swing states are so flawed by weighting Democrats with such high turn outs. There is no basis in reality for Democrats to have such higher turn out over Republicans in this election.

[Dark Sage]

2010 left us with the Worst Congress in History. (And I capitalized that on purpose.)

I rest my case.