2012 U.S. Presidential Election

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In which case impeachment proceedings should proceed as he has failed the office to take even the most basic options to protect Americans.

Not taking the "most basic options" would mean not providing any support, whatsoever. There were provisions for security. Were they adequate? No. But the "most basic options" were certainly provided here. Any additional security would have been more than "most basic."

Yet even here he has failed in the most basic principal of the Presidency which is to protect American lives and property. He had the means and opportunity to do so, and he did not do it.

The suggestion here seems to be that the president believed the ten-member CIA team present at the consulate would be enough to repel the attack.

[Roy Karrde]

Not taking the "most basic options" would mean not providing any support, whatsoever. There were provisions for security. Were they adequate? No. But the "most basic options" were certainly provided here. Any additional security would have been more than "most basic."

Most basic options during a ATTACK would be providing necessary military back up to save the lives. That above else has to be the most basic option. Again remember his first duty is to the safety and security of the people in those buildings. And I will remind you there were multiple warnings before the attack that the security was not enough to prevent a attack, and that their Libyan protectors were looking like they were going to turn on them. As such the embassy did not even provide the most basic security.

The suggestion here seems to be that the president believed the ten-member CIA team present at the consulate would be enough to repel the attack.

The real time data provided by the drone should have been more than enough to dispel that belief. Such things such as the size of the force, the calls for help, and the fact the Consulate was on fire all should contribute to the belief of the need for a rescue.

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Most basic options during a ATTACK would be providing necessary military back up to save the lives. That above else has to be the most basic option. Again remember his first duty is to the safety and security of the people in those buildings. And I will remind you there were multiple warnings before the attack that the security was not enough to prevent a attack, and that their Libyan protectors were looking like they were going to turn on them. As such the embassy did not even provide the most basic security.

They did provide military back-up. They sent Delta Force commandos from Fort Bragg to Sicily, but they didn't arrive in Benghazi in time. The battle fought at the consulate was not a continuous one. It was two, punctuated attacks, with a long pause in between. This article offers other reasons for the slow response that make it clear that President Obama did everything he could. I don't think it's an exhaustive investigation by any means, but there are clearly other reasons for the lack of security.

But as both you and this article point out, the real failure here is the fact that the response was so delayed, as a result of a larger failure of security in the African region.

The real time data provided by the drone should have been more than enough to dispel that belief. Such things such as the size of the force, the calls for help, and the fact the Consulate was on fire all should contribute to the belief of the need for a rescue.

And maybe that was the case. But it doesn't seem that it was possible for any additional aid to arrive in time.

[Roy Karrde]

They did provide military back-up. They sent Delta Force commandos from Fort Bragg to Sicily, but they didn't arrive in Benghazi in time. The battle fought at the consulate was not a continuous one. It was two, punctuated attacks, with a long pause in between. This article offers other reasons for the slow response that make it clear that President Obama did everything he could. I don't think it's an exhaustive investigation by any means, but there are clearly other reasons for the lack of security.

And as noted, there were the ability to provide Airforce fly overs, something that has been used in Iraq and Afghanistan in the past to disperse crowds and could have gotten there within minutes if not a hour at most. There is no reason why not to provide air support while the Delta Force Commandos were being prepared.

But as both you and this article point out, the real failure here is the fact that the response was so delayed, as a result of a larger failure of security in the African region.

And maybe that was the case. But it doesn't seem that it was possible for any additional aid to arrive in time.

So you deny that there is a Airforce facility that has helicopters and jets at the ready, merely a hour away from Libya?

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As Popular Mechanics notes "There seems to be little downside to sending warplanes to Benghazi. Perhaps such a demonstration could have prevented the attack on the CIA safe house, saving two lives and halting the loss of a critical intelligence operation."