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    Talking Re: Political Correctness VS. Factual Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Karrde View Post
    Okay here is the problem, the two things that you listed, HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH A PAY. It has to do with choices. If a woman decides to carry a baby to term that is her choice, if a woman decides to take a lower paying job, that is her choice. The question is if a man and women with the exact same circumstances were placed in the same job would they make the same money? The U.S. Labor Department says yes. As such the only conclusion I can reach is that talk of the pay gap has nothing to do with pay for the job, and everything with victimization as if women have to be treated as children when it comes to the consequences of their choices.
    Okay, so I am a Masters student, female and I work in a fairly low paid job. You're telling me it's my choice to be in such a low paid job? I am more than qualified to teach one to one lessons, where I am able to earn Ł30-40 an hour, but it's simply a case of I can't get that job. And it's not because I've not tried, it's the simple case of cutbacks in the arts and a bad economy. People can't afford the luxury of music lessons because the cost mounts up. So now the only way for me to make a career out of my degrees is to get another one and teach in a classroom instead.

    Alright, so these are mostly choices, I'll agree, but they're not as simple to make as you make it seem. Most of these things are because I have to, not because I want to. And I'll think you'll find that's the same with most women when it comes to employment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChobiChibi View Post
    Okay, so I am a Masters student, female and I work in a fairly low paid job. You're telling me it's my choice to be in such a low paid job? I am more than qualified to teach one to one lessons, where I am able to earn Ł30-40 an hour, but it's simply a case of I can't get that job. And it's not because I've not tried, it's the simple case of cutbacks in the arts and a bad economy. People can't afford the luxury of music lessons because the cost mounts up. So now the only way for me to make a career out of my degrees is to get another one and teach in a classroom instead.

    Alright, so these are mostly choices, I'll agree, but they're not as simple to make as you make it seem. Most of these things are because I have to, not because I want to. And I'll think you'll find that's the same with most women when it comes to employment.
    Well in your case the question would be would a man being a Masters student, be able to find a job? You say there are cutbacks and a bad economy, which would suggest that if you were a man in the same position, you would still be struggling to find a job right now, and would currently be in a low paying job right now. But anyway my post was more geared toward the women who take part time jobs so that they can be home when the kids get home from school, instead of sending the children to daycare, that I would say is a choice they are making instead of taking a full time job in which they can earn more, but would cause them to be away from home more.
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