Illegal Immigration

[Zak]

what makes illegal immigration (for my main talking points, I'll have to refer to America since that's where I live) hard to contain is the border between Mexico and the US is so big, it's almost impossible to man completely to look for people who are crossing illegally. Even still, if it were properly manned and staffed it's still hard to look for people due to the extensive work they put into getting around the boarder. Tunnels are not uncommon, and are well thought out. I believe (if memory serves), there was one such tunnel that ran to a small town, through the sewers where people would come up from. The tunnels (among other ways to cross), are all over, and when one is filled or stopped another one opens up.

You do realize that this supports the point that a wall is the answer, right?

Another tricky part is that even when people who are here illegally are caught and deported, they know nothing really big comes from it in their home country and they'll just be back again eventually. If they're caught again, they'll be sent home and the cycle repeats. Granted, coming across the boarder illegally isn't as bad a crime as murder, but w/ no real repercussion other then getting sent home, well other than the hassle of coming back to America (or whichever country), there really is no long term downside.

Yeah, and if they commit a murder while they're here, they don't go to jail, they just get sent back, still on the streets in their country and free to weasel their way back in as you said. If anything it'd be doing them a favor.

Finally, more to your point Zak, the word "bigot" and "racist" has changing over the years. They're still awful things to be, don't get me wrong, but now it does indeed seem like whenever you disagree w/ a point made by a minority group or say something against a minority group, you are automatically "racist" and "bigoted" even though that's not the case. People automatically assume if you're against illegal immigration than yes you must be "racist", because why don't you want people to have a better life? It's almost like it's the easiest thing to do when someone disagrees is to call them racist or bigot or white supremacist. You label someone something like that, and even if it's not true they'll automatically look like the bad guy. And when you get a group of people with a mob mind mentality, one voice trying to have a rational argument will drown in a sea of anger, fear and hatred.

Everyone deserves a better life, but why can't they go the legal route? The same can be said for murder, like if someone was being blackmailed with something that would put their life (like their marriage or their career) in jeopardy and they murdered the person blackmailing them, then sure, they'd have a "better life". One could rob a bank and give themselves a "better life" by having money. I don't really see how that's an excuse...

[Lady Vulpix]

Everyone deserves a better life, but why can't they go the legal route?

Don't you think they're trying? Immigrating to the USA legally is about as hard as winning the lottery. In fact, I heard there was an actual lottery for that.