Quote Originally Posted by Roy Karrde View Post
So now is his innocent or guilty? I keep getting confused in your posts. And you are right it is more serious, but the thing is that those investigations do not care about the crime. What they do is get you up on the stand, they ask you alot of questions, and then they call you back a month later and ask you the same questions. If you're answers differ, or if you had forgotten, and they can prove it against you. Then you go to trial. That is the real goal of it.
From what I have read and been told, Gonzales didn't do anything strictly illegal, so did he commit a crime? No. He is not a criminal. What he was accused of doing, and what he is guilty of doing, is abusing his position in order to put Bush's allies in top jobs and get rid of supposed Democrat-supporters.
As for Gonzales, unless you have been in the congressional room you have no idea what has truely gone down. These prosecutors are supposed to be unbiased, neither liberal or conservative. If they were being biased, which it seemed they were as they were going directly after Republican members of Congress while by passing Democrat Scandles, then Gonzales had the right to pull them and allow Bush to put in attorneys that will go after both Republican and Democrats.
What the reports were is that these prosecutors ruled unfavourably towards Republicans. Of course Republicans are going to say they are pinko commie scum for not ruling in their favour, and most people agree the the people that replaced the fired Prosecutors were "loyal Bushies".

Of course, Bush and his cronies have no problem getting rid of people who don't rule in their favour and setting up lapdogs in top jobs, they're been doing it since 2000, such as when Bush got Herbert fired from the top job in the FERC and installed his lapdog Pat Wood to allow Bush's buddies in Enron to do whatever the hell they wanted.

Becuase we were talking about the Democrats having control of the Congress and the White House right now. Especially when it came to the three major acts that they have comitted over the last three months where Democrats were in power of Congress. No where did you mention the White House, it was no where near the post either. We were talking about how the Republicans acted during Congressional Rule, and how the Democrats acted during Congressional Rule.
If you're going to go after me for the same point over and over again, a point that I have already retracted no less, at least get what I meant right. The Republicans controlled Congress and the White House for 6 years, effectively allowing them to pass whatever laws they wanted since the Democrats didn't stand a chance. Now that the power is divided between Congress and , the Republicans can't fast-track bills through like they used to be able too. If there was a Democrat president, the Republican Congress wouldn't have gotten away with the shit it did in the first six years of Bush.