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    Ahh I see Godwin's law rears its ugly head.
    Yes, but it's a pretty clear similarity between the two in terms of the exclusion of groups of human beings from human rights. The fact that this comparison happens often doesn't make it any less relevant and telling to the point at hand, and I notice you didn't deny the similarity between Perry and Hitler either. Both are abject, though obviously to different degrees. (Although, hey, who knows what Perry would do with a bit of power? He doesn't seem to have a problem that these homosexuals who live their "offensive lifestyle" are killed and imprisoned internationally, maybe he'd cut out their pesky "special" rights in the US, too, and recriminalise homosexuality? It's offensive, after all.)

    I'd argue the rest but it's clear from the enormous debate between you and kurai that even trying to slowly reason with you and rationally investigate your points still yields nothing but blind ignorance. I'm far from the kind of person who wants everyone to agree with his point of view (I enjoy a good debate and I am strongly supportive of people being free to articulate their views) but when the point of view being argued is basic human rights (i.e. not being killed by your government) and you're still essentially defending Perry on that issue, I just can't fathom it and I've lost all respect for your intellectual position, which is highly unintellectual and immoral. So reasoning with you is clearly futile; there is no reason or human compassion in your position.

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    I was dredging up some news stories from last year... Sarah Palin was very popular then. So many GOP voters were putting their support behind her. I said she didn't have a snowball's chance, but everyone laughed at me.

    Despite the chance that it was two weeks before Christmas then too, and she had just shot a reindeer and made it public. I still can't believe she did that.

    Now she's the subject of a made-for-TV movie, and possibly a reality show; my prediction is that both will flop.

    I hope people take me seriously this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gavin Luper View Post
    Yes, but it's a pretty clear similarity between the two in terms of the exclusion of groups of human beings from human rights. The fact that this comparison happens often doesn't make it any less relevant and telling to the point at hand, and I notice you didn't deny the similarity between Perry and Hitler either. Both are abject, though obviously to different degrees. (Although, hey, who knows what Perry would do with a bit of power? He doesn't seem to have a problem that these homosexuals who live their "offensive lifestyle" are killed and imprisoned internationally, maybe he'd cut out their pesky "special" rights in the US, too, and recriminalise homosexuality? It's offensive, after all.)
    The reason I did not argue against it is because the argument between Hitler and anyone is so inane, so over the top, that it does not deserve to be argued with. The point deserves to be shunned and moved on with, and that is exactly what I did.

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    I'd argue the rest but it's clear from the enormous debate between you and kurai that even trying to slowly reason with you and rationally investigate your points still yields nothing but blind ignorance. I'm far from the kind of person who wants everyone to agree with his point of view (I enjoy a good debate and I am strongly supportive of people being free to articulate their views) but when the point of view being argued is basic human rights (i.e. not being killed by your government) and you're still essentially defending Perry on that issue, I just can't fathom it and I've lost all respect for your intellectual position, which is highly unintellectual and immoral. So reasoning with you is clearly futile; there is no reason or human compassion in your position.
    So now you are arguing that Perry wants to actually kill Gays, and... you call me ignorant? Wow just... wow.

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