2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Roy Karrde]

Just like that clever political calculus good ol' Adolf Hitler used, right? He thought the rights of Jews were special rights that needed to be redressed. Just like Perry thinks homosexual rights are special rights that need to be redressed. Your mate is in good company, isn't he? Just appealing to the social conservatives, right? Just arguing that a random group of people is less-deserving of human rights than the rest, right? It's totally worth supporting. Look at all that political calculus!

How you cannot denounce Perry for holding such a position is abhorrent. You might like everything else about him and those credentials might be great, but his position on human rights for homosexuals is immoral and completely untenable.

Ahh I see Godwin's law rears its ugly head.

"The United States has put the fight against gay and lesbian discrimination at the heart of its foreign policy, but stopped short of warning transgressor nations they could be stripped of US aid."

[Taken from: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-12-0...ional/3717162]

That's what the news reported ... that the US stopped short of withholding foreign aid on this matter. So where are you pulling your facts from? If something further has taken place, let me know, please, because I'd like to see the US follow the UK's lead on this.

It seems the reports have varied as there are no real concrete details, from what I can gather they are separating foreign aid to give to the embassies to help fight for Gay and Transgender rights. Which is good no doubt, but doesn't stop my originally point of him putting the rights of one over the other.

You are being ignorant on this topic. Unless he makes a public reversal and says "actually, I support gay rights now" we can reasonably assume that someone who repeatedly makes public remarks that denounce gay rights clearly holds a position against gay rights. When he makes a future comment on gay rights, it is quite easy to understand the context of that comment, knowing his very clear and very public position on it. This is called reasoning, not ignorance. You yourself have stated he is courting the social conservatives. I don't understand your feeble attempts to deny or defend Perry's bigotry.

He is courting Social Conservatives in the context that he is making it feel that Christians are under attack in that ad. Now while I have maintained that Perry does not like Gays, that does not automatically mean that every time he links something to Gays it is automatically to be taken in a negative context.

Homosexual rights are NOT special rights! There are no special rights. They are all HUMAN rights. The right to not be murdered by your government just for existing is not "special".

They are special rights when you focus on one class of Sexualities but not others, including making those sexualities illegal.