2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Roy Karrde]

And I'm gonna have to agree with Gavin.

Here is the thing both of you may find it laughable, but that is what you get into in the realm of defining something as a Human Right, you must extend it in some way to all people and all sexualities. You may not like it, you may find it laughable, but for some people that is their life and their love.

[Gavin Luper]

Here is the thing both of you may find it laughable, but that is what you get into in the realm of defining something as a Human Right, you must extend it in some way to all people and all sexualities. You may not like it, you may find it laughable, but for some people that is their life and their love.

No, the most laughable thing for the rest of us, or maybe the most devastating thing, is that you will probably never realise how offensive you are being when you compare the love between two consenting males to a man's fixation on his non-consenting toaster.

[Dark Sage]

Probably the most laughable thing about the GOP right now is how they support the current crop of clowns in the first place. Their front-runner is an admitted adulterer who has been married three times. Bill Clinton was a pariah for his philandering, and his wife is still with him.

[Gavin Luper]

Probably the most laughable thing about the GOP right now is how they support the current crop of clowns in the first place. Their front-runner is an admitted adulterer who has been married three times. Bill Clinton was a pariah for his philandering, and his wife is still with him.

They really are a mess, aren't they? It would be good to see some strong, non-fundamentalist leadership emerge but it doesn't seem likely in the near future.

[Roy Karrde]

No, the most laughable thing for the rest of us, or maybe the most devastating thing, is that you will probably never realise how offensive you are being when you compare the love between two consenting males to a man's fixation on his non-consenting toaster.

Is love not love? It seems rather bigoted to laugh at one person's love just because you do not like it. You, I, and alot of other people may think its weird, but there are people who are in utter love with objects.

The problems is you decided to make marriage a human right, at that moment you must reliably extend the human right to everyone in some form or another.

[Gavin Luper]

Is love not love? It seems rather bigoted to laugh at one person's love just because you do not like it. You, I, and alot of other people may think its weird, but there are people who are in utter love with objects.

The problems is you decided to make marriage a human right, at that moment you must reliably extend the human right to everyone in some form or another.

Marriage requires both parties to consent and say "I do". As a toaster cannot give its consent, your argument is invalid.

Again, let's disengage on the subject of marriage because we are never going to see eye to eye, obviously.

[ChobiChibi]

No, the most laughable thing for the rest of us, or maybe the most devastating thing, is that you will probably never realise how offensive you are being when you compare the love between two consenting males to a man's fixation on his non-consenting toaster.

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[Dark Sage]

Congratulations are in order for Rick Perry. He (and not President Obama) was awarded the "Bum Steer" award by Texas Monthly for the year's biggest gaffe.

Seems that even in Texas, people think he's a fool.

[Roy Karrde]

Congratulations are in order for Rick Perry. He (and not President Obama) was awarded the "Bum Steer" award by Texas Monthly for the year's biggest gaffe.

Seems that even in Texas, people think he's a fool.

Umm why would President Obama get a award that tends to be given to Texas Politicians/Texan related incidents?

[Dark Sage]

I believe it can be given to any politician, not just ones from Texas.

[Roy Karrde]

I believe it can be given to any politician, not just ones from Texas.

The list of events for last year's award were..

* The ridiculous State Board of Education, which seemed hell-bent on convincing the world that Texas is a state bored of education.

* Or the villainous BP, which took a giant leak in our Gulf and on our energy sector.

* Or the hapless Democratic Party, which couldn’t have done worse in Texas if it had renamed itself the Socialists Against Hunting Party.

* Or the listless Bill White, who put voters of all ideological persuasions to sleep with his “Look, Ma, No Excitement!” gubernatorial campaign.

* Or the shameless Rick Perry, who bravely refused to participate in a debate unless his opponent made public his eighth-grade report card

* And let’s not forget the unscrupulous Tom DeLay, convicted

http://www.texasmonthly.com/preview/2011-01-01/feature

The year before that the award list was...

* Jerry Jones spent a billion dollars on a football stadium, but no one would pay to put their name on it.

* Tom Craddick got the boot, Boone Pickens lost some loot, and the eighty-first legislative session bore no fruit.

* Rick Perry talked about secession, while Kay Bailey Hutchison dreamed about succession.

* Tea parties were the rage, literally.

http://www.texasmonthly.com/preview/2010-01-01/feature

Yeah not only is Texas Monthly known as a fairly liberal publication, but the awards are given to Texas politicians and events.

[kon]

Ron Paul 2012

Too bad they shut him off after Bachmann pissed him off about Iran

Ron Paul 2012

[Eusine]

Being from Canada, I do not follow the U.S. Republican leadership race often. But from what little I have seen from coverage thanks to kurai and others, I can safely say that America is in trouble if it elects a Republican president, the degree of the trouble only depends on which one is elected.

If I had to choose, I would say Ron Paul seems the best one of this sour bunch of candidates. He at least has some solutions that could be implemented instead of just pandering to corporate and special interests like the others.

Also, off-topic, but it's good to be back again, though I can't use my old account, sadly.