2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

Something I just read in the news makes me downright angry.

Newt Gingrich has just signed a contentious anti-gay marriage pledge, in which he promises that, if he becomes President, he will opppose gay marriage and push for the support of an Amendment defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

In other words, he wants to defend the sacred bond of traditional marriage.

Quite an interesting stance, giving that he is a three-time adulterer who has been divorced twice. Taking such a stance makes him...

...well, I'll come right out and say it. It makes him a hypocite.

I dare anyone to deny it.

[Roy Karrde]

Something I just read in the news makes me downright angry.

Newt Gingrich has just signed a contentious anti-gay marriage pledge, in which he promises that, if he becomes President, he will opppose gay marriage and push for the support of an Amendment defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

In other words, he wants to defend the sacred bond of traditional marriage.

Quite an interesting stance, giving that he is a three-time adulterer who has been divorced twice. Taking such a stance makes him...

...well, I'll come right out and say it. It makes him a hypocite.

I dare anyone to deny it.

I don't think anyone cares, if 2008 showed us anything it is that past history does not matter to the voters. I mean we elected a President who was friends with a known terrorist and a slum lord. Place that against a man who has had three marriages and there is really no comparison.

People want ideas on how to get us out of this economic malaise that we are stuck in, not innocuous crap about some one's personal history.

[Dark Sage]

Roy... Don't tell me you actually believe the idiotic things people have accused Mr. Obama of?

I suppose you believe the whole "birther" crap too?

Edit: I notice you didn't deny that he was a hypocrite.

[Roy Karrde]

Roy... Don't tell me you actually believe the idiotic things people have accused Mr. Obama of?

I suppose you believe the whole "birther" crap too?

I believe in facts, in that case I do not believe the Birther crap, I do believe he had past connections with Tony Resco and Bill Ayres as both have admitted to it.

Edit: I notice you didn't deny that he was a hypocrite.

If we start calling politicians hypocrites then we pretty much have to label all of them hypocrites.

[Dark Sage]

Yes, he had past connections with two crooks.

By the same reasoning, can we say every single person in every government in the Middle East who had past connections with Osama Bin Laden guilty of crimes against humanty? I ask because there were a lot of them before he became the mastermind of 9/11.

[Roy Karrde]

Yes, he had past connections with two crooks.

By the same reasoning, can we say every single person in every government in the Middle East who had past connections with Osama Bin Laden guilty of crimes against humanty? I ask because there were a lot of them before he became the mastermind of 9/11.

Every single person in every government in the Middle East? Now if those people had connections with Bin Laden after he became a terrorist such as Obama knowingly became connected with Ayres after he become a terrorist, I would say those people are connected with terrorist, not guilty of crimes against humanity as that seems to be a stretch. Not to mention I am not saying Obama is now guilty of crimes against humanity for his connection, that is silly. Just saying that no one cares about his past connections.

[Dark Sage]

You misquoted me. I didn't say every single person in every government in the Middle East.

I said every one who had past connections with Bin Laden.

Should we judge a man by the company he keeps? Maybe sometimes, but not always. I had a friend in high school who ceased being a friend in my senior year. He's in prison now, doing time for rape and aggrivated assault. Does that make me a bad person because I used to know him? I don't think so.