2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[kurai]

you are

~145 million individual filings are made:

460,000,000 (dollars) / 145,000,000 (people) = $3.17

to give 1 million to 145 million people you need:

1,000,000 (dollars) x 145,000,000 (people) = $145,000,000,000,000

you can see the problem

[Dark Sage]

Roy, technically, Mr. Obama is one of the one percent. But unlike most of them, he cares about the ninety-nine percent.

Sure, the Democrats get some of their funding from the one percent... But the GOP gets practically ALL of theirs from them.

[Roy Karrde]

Roy, technically, Mr. Obama is one of the one percent. But unlike most of them, he cares about the ninety-nine percent.

Sure that is why he passed so many high way bills and did things like Solyndra that rewarded his mega doners.

Sure, the Democrats get some of their funding from the one percent... But the GOP gets practically ALL of theirs from them.

Proof/Tits or GTFO.

[DarkestLight]

you are

~145 million individual filings are made:

460,000,000 (dollars) / 145,000,000 (people) = $3.17

to give 1 million to 145 million people you need:

1,000,000 (dollars) x 145,000,000 (people) = $145,000,000,000,000

you can see the problem

Yes. Im stupid . 145/145=1 My brain did not make that distinction.

[Dark Sage]

Herald, what the colonists were angry about wasn't the taxes, it was a concept called taxation without representation. What that meant was, they had no say in how they were taxed, or even how they were governed.

And that was only one of the ways that they were taken advantage of.

[Heald]

Herald, what the colonists were angry about wasn't the taxes, it was a concept called taxation without representation. What that meant was, they had no say in how they were taxed, or even how they were governed.

And that was only one of the ways that they were taken advantage of.

So they were angry about the taxes (i.e. the fact they were being taxed without having any say in their government), which is what I said.

[Dark Sage]

Heald, you said they were too greedy to pay them.

There was also the issue of the Quartering Act, the Townshend Acts, the furor over the Boston Massacre, and many other factors that led to the colonists being mad at the British government.

[Dark Sage]

True, I come down harder on Trump than I do on most Republicans, but my reasons for disliking him are not just partisan. I'm a New Yorker, and many (if not most) New Yorkers wish he'd leave he's an embarrassment to this city.

He's an embarrassment to the GOP, in fact, as is anyone who persists with the Birther balony.

[Dark Sage]

Sorry about the double post, but I had to post this. Mr. Obama made a pretty profound statement about the attitudes of the GOP in a short interview he gave yesterday, comparing them with Ronald Reagan, one of the most popular GOP Presidents of the modern era:

MR. SINGLETON: Thank you, Mr. President. We appreciate so much you being with us today. I have some questions from the audience, which I will ask -- and I'll be more careful than I was last time I did this.
Republicans have been sharply critical of your budget ideas as well. What can you say to the Americans who just want both sides to stop fighting and get some work done on their behalf?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I completely understand the American people’s frustrations, because the truth is that these are eminently solvable problems. I know that Christine Lagarde is here from the IMF, and she’s looking at the books of a lot of other countries around the world. The kinds of challenges they face fiscally are so much more severe than anything that we confront -- if we make some sensible decisions.

So the American people’s impulses are absolutely right. These are solvable problems if people of good faith came together and were willing to compromise. The challenge we have right now is that we have on one side, a party that will brook no compromise. And this is not just my assertion. We had presidential candidates who stood on a stage and were asked, “Would you accept a budget package, a deficit reduction plan, that involved $10 of cuts for every dollar in revenue increases?” Ten-to-one ratio of spending cuts to revenue. Not one of them raised their hand.

Think about that. Ronald Reagan, who, as I recall, is not accused of being a tax-and-spend socialist, understood repeatedly that when the deficit started to get out of control, that for him to make a deal he would have to propose both spending cuts and tax increases. Did it multiple times. He could not get through a Republican primary today.

The scary part is, I believe it.

[Roy Karrde]

Sorry about the double post, but I had to post this. Mr. Obama made a pretty profound statement about the attitudes of the GOP in a short interview he gave yesterday, comparing them with Ronald Reagan, one of the most popular GOP Presidents of the modern era.

So let me get this straight, the same bastard that has spent the last few months playing to his feminist base to the point of possibly violating the separation of church and state. Is now bitching about the GOP playing to their base during a primary election? Pot/Kettle.

Also two big thing on VP buzz, for Paul Ryan he gave the lead in to the victory speech last night and it is attracting alot of attention.

http://campaign2012.washingtonexamin...vp-buzz/463561

For Marco Rubio, he is crafting what could be the GOP's version of the DREAM Act, it seems this is designed as a key to winning over Hispanic voters, especially if he were on the ticket.

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/0...os-to-the-gop/

[Dark Sage]

More news...

It seems unlikely that Rubio will accept an offer to be Romney's running mate, do to a statement that Rubio himself made today.

He claimed that, while he believes it is possible for Romney to win the election, he does NOT believe it is possible with him as the running mate.

He did not make any suggestions as to who it should be.

[Roy Karrde]

More news...

It seems unlikely that Rubio will accept an offer to be Romney's running mate, do to a statement that Rubio himself made today.

He claimed that, while he believes it is possible for Romney to win the election, he does NOT believe it is possible with him as the running mate.

He did not make any suggestions as to who it should be.

Yeah because that will be the first time ever that a politician has denied aspirations for a further political office before changing their mind later on.

[Dark Sage]

Tim Pawlenty, Nikki Haley, and Susana Martinez also said recently that they aren't intersted.

It seems that no A-list Republicans other than the actual nominees want to be included in the ticket.

[Roy Karrde]

Tim Pawlenty, Nikki Haley, and Susana Martinez also said recently that they aren't intersted.

It seems that no A-list Republicans other than the actual nominees want to be included in the ticket.

Yeah.. and if you don't think they will jump at the chance, then you probably would have also believed Obama when he said he wasn't interested in the Presidency in 2004.

[Dark Sage]

Romney made an odd attack against President Obama today... He said that Mr. Obama "spent too much time at Harvard".

A very odd attack, coming from a fellow Harvard gradute who spent one more year than Obama there.

But then, I'm getting used to Romney saying things that make no sense.

Edit: Here's the breakdown: Romney enrolled in a four-year program at Harvard in 1971, eventually earning a joint JD and MBA and graduating cum laude in 1975. In 1988, Obama began attending Harvard Law School. He spent three years there, eventually becoming president of the Harvard Law Review before graduating magna cum laude and receiving his JD in 1991. That's four years for Romney, three for Obama.

[Roy Karrde]

Romney made an odd attack against President Obama today... He said that Mr. Obama "spent too much time at Harvard".

A very odd attack, coming from a fellow Harvard gradute who spent one more year than Obama there.

But then, I'm getting used to Romney saying things that make no sense.

Edit: Here's the breakdown: Romney enrolled in a four-year program at Harvard in 1971, eventually earning a joint JD and MBA and graduating cum laude in 1975. In 1988, Obama began attending Harvard Law School. He spent three years there, eventually becoming president of the Harvard Law Review before graduating magna cum laude and receiving his JD in 1991. That's four years for Romney, three for Obama.

Not really a odd attack if you just take it at face value and not do a break down. I assume Romney means the reason why President Obama is so detatched from the public ( And lets be truthful, Obama is detatched from people ) is that he spent so much time around the rich liberals in Harvard.

[Dark Sage]

And Romney is a rich Conservative from Harvard.

Your point?

[Dark Sage]

Every member of the GOP is on Mr. Obama's back about his quote-unquote "intimidation" of the U.S. Supreme Court, calling him a "bully", saying that no self-respecting President would have done this...

I've got three-and-a-half words for those members of the GOP: The Dread Scott Case.

Was Abraham Lincoln a "self-respecting President"? I think he was.

And by the way, someone else mentioned the same three-and-a-half words recently when addressing this issue: Newt Gingrich.

[Roy Karrde]

Every member of the GOP is on Mr. Obama's back about his quote-unquote "intimidation" of the U.S. Supreme Court, calling him a "bully", saying that no self-respecting President would have done this...

I've got three-and-a-half words for those members of the GOP: The Dread Scott Case.

Was Abraham Lincoln a "self-respecting President"? I think he was.

And by the way, someone else mentioned the same three-and-a-half words recently when addressing this issue: Newt Gingrich.

Funny thing is, Obama is a Constitutional Scholar, and as such he should know that the President ( Something that Newt Gingrich isn't ) should not attempt to intimidate the Supreme Court. I guess the truth is, that he is not only a crappy President, but a crappy Constitutional Scholar.

Just curious but I cannot see where Lincoln spoke out against the Dred Scott Case while it was in deliberation. The ruling was made March 6, 1857 and Lincoln's first speech on it that I can find was June 26, 1857. By the way, that was also 3 years before Lincoln was elected, so it wouldn't have mattered anyway as he wasn't President at the time.

[Dark Sage]

Sure, Roy, sure.

It's fine when the GOP speaks out against judges who strike down laws that impose tough abortion laws or limit the rights of homosexuals, but when Democrats do it, it's wrong.

You can't tell me with a straight face that GOP wouldn't be doing the same thing if this was their landmark case that was up for scrutiny by the Court.