2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

I see absolutely none.

Here's something else for you to chew on. Yesterday, you bragged that Romney made $300,000 from donations in the first hour alone after after the ruling. Since that time, his efforts to raise money have resulted in 4.6 million from more that 47 thousand donors, according to his campaign team.

However... Obama's campaign team claims that, despite the fact that he was not making the same specific effort to raise donations during that time, his donations were even higher. Which was the case before the ruling was made on most given days. (They did not give a specific sum.)

Now, there's no proof to back up either of these claims, seeing as they came from the respective campaign teams of each candidate, but if true, it would say a lot.

[Roy Karrde]

I see absolutely none.

Romney's own website has it, so apparently you didn't look very hard.

http://www.mittromney.com/issues/health-care

And here are some highlights of one of the GOP's health care bills from 2009

http://money.cnn.com/2009/06/17/news...lth_care_bill/

Here's something else for you to chew on. Yesterday, you bragged that Romney made $300,000 from donations in the first hour alone after after the ruling. Since that time, his efforts to raise money have resulted in 4.6 million from more that 47 thousand donors, according to his campaign team.

However... Obama's campaign team claims that, despite the fact that he was not making the same specific effort to raise donations during that time, his donations were even higher. Which was the case before the ruling was made on most given days.

Now, there's no proof to back up either of these claims, seeing as they came from the respective campaign teams of each candidate, but if true, it would say a lot.

We have a hard number for Romney, where are the numbers for Obama?

[Dark Sage]

I see...

It seems like those plans are a lot like what we have now, except that they benefit the insurance companies a lot more than the people who actually buy insurance.

I fail to see anything in those plans that would benefit people who actually needed it.

And as for your accusation, where's the proof that Romney's campaign team actually collected that much? Romney has been known for secret bank accounts and being dihonest with his money, you know, but I've been willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that because all rich people do it.

We have to take both their words for it, Roy. If you're calling Obama's team a bunch of liars, fine, but in that case, I'm not gonna believe Romney's.

[Roy Karrde]

I see...

It seems like those plans are a lot like what we have now, except that they benefit the insurance companies a lot more than the people who actually buy insurance.

I fail to see anything in those plans that would benefit people who actually needed it.

Again as opposed to Obama's plan that forces people to buy from monopolies or be penalized?

And as for your accusation, where's the proof that Romney's campaign team actually collected that much? Romney has been known for secret bank accounts and being dihonest with his money, you know, but I've been willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that because all rich people do it.

You do realize that Political Campaigns can't do that right? Furthermore after the immoral if not illegal activities Obama's Fundraising engaged in 2008, I would not be pointing fingers at anyone.

We have to take both their words for it, Roy. If you're calling Obama's team a bunch of liars, fine, but in that case, I'm not gonna believe Romney's.

Thing is with Romney we have hard and fast numbers, we know how many donators, we know the money donated. Obama has said NOTHING to that effect on it's own numbers. If we are to believe both campaign's shouldn't we have the numbers for both atleast? That is holding both up to the same standard.

[Dark Sage]

Maybe it's simply not their policy to release actual numbers.

Anyway, I've had enough of this for today, I have things to do. I'll leave by saying this: The Affordable Health Care Act has more supporters than you may think.

I was watching live coverage yesterday as the ruling was announced. Quite a crowd of people had gathered outside the Federal Courthouse, and seeing as the crowd's reaction to the ruling was very positive, I'd say that they had come intending to protest the Court's much-expected negative ruling on the measure.

[Roy Karrde]

Maybe it's simply not their policy to release actual numbers.

Really? So why do they release fundraising numbers every month? Maybe, just maybe, they do not actually have the money coming in? And this is part of a pathetic spin to try to stop Romney's victory?

Anyway, I've had enough of this for today, I have things to do. I'll leave by saying this: The Affordable Health Care Act has more supporters than you may think.

I was watching live coverage yesterday as the ruling was announced. Quite a crowd of people had gathered outside the Federal Courthouse, and seeing as the crowd's reaction to the ruling was very positive, I'd say that they had come intending to protest the Court's much-expected negative ruling on the measure.

So we are judging popularity now based on one event we see on TV? By that faulty logic we can go to a Tea Party rally and see that not only does quite alot of people in this country believe that Obama should be voted out, but that Obamacare is wrong.

[Dark Sage]

Really? So why do they release fundraising numbers every month? Maybe, just maybe, they do not actually have the money coming in? And this is part of a pathetic spin to try to stop Romney's victory?

The Obama campaign had told HuffPost on Thursday that it would not be releasing fundraising numbers for the day and does not discuss precise numbers except in regards to its filings with the Federal Election Commission.

There. It's not their policy. Stop calling Obama's team liars.