2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Roy Karrde]

Are you for real? Of course it is paid for with taxes - but it's FREE for the individual using it. That's the whole point: that for those who are the most exposed and vulnerable (say, people who are recently unemployed, laid off, homeless, whatever) and who need medical care, there is something actually available to them free of charge. Those who are employed and affluent have the same option available to them, or they can opt for a higher level of private cover, which they would have to pay for themselves.

Again you are not getting my point, if you are paying for it in taxes it is not free, you are just shifting the cost from paying for it through the insurance every month, to paying for it through the government every month.

There would not be a situation where there is no health cover at all because the system single-handedly ruins the economy - I can't believe this is your argument.

I am not saying it single-handedly ruins the economy, although it could contribute to it. I am saying that when you have a health care system completely reliant on the Government, if the Government gets in trouble, as we are seeing in Greece. The health care system fails completely. If you want further proof I would suggest reading this.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...2b9df19d45.2b1

As far as I can see, you are arguing against this proposal because you fear that the wealthy will have to share the health system with the poor, or you fear that in allowing the poor access to the health care system, the standard of care for the wealthy would be diminished. That's the main concern you have, isn't it? Not that the far more numerous poor might actually get access to the care they need?

I could care less for what the wealthy get, I am worried about the standard of care for the middle class and elderly as it begins to diminish as the abuse of the system rises. Health Care is not a infinite resource, it is a finite one that when abused can lead to massive trouble ( The Parkland Hospital example I gave ). To make this a Wealthy vs Poor thing ignores the fact that the Wealthy and Middle Class and a significant amount of the Poor already share a high standard of care, one that would diminish if a Universal System was introduced such as Medicare.