2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

By that logic then since Obama is pretty much still at parity with Obama in Gallup and Rasmussen daily polls, does that mean when Romney can finally unleash in his ads this September and October that Obama will go down?

He can try.

I don't think he'll succeed.

See, Roy, you may not think it's necessary for Romney to release his tax returns, but his refusal to do so is one of the biggest reasons people don't like him.

Here, I'll show you the full results of the CNN/ORC Poll. Read the findings, and they'll tell you not only that Obama is ahead, but WHY he's ahead.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...d-over-romney/

[Roy Karrde]

He can try.

I don't think he'll succeed.

See, Roy, you may not think it's necessary for Romney to release his tax returns, but his refusal to do so is one of the biggest reasons people don't like him.

And Obama expects to use that for the next three months? That is going to be Obama's big point against Romney? Tax Returns?

Here, I'll show you the full results of the CNN/ORC Poll. Read the findings, and they'll tell you not only that Obama is ahead, but WHY he's ahead.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...d-over-romney/

And may I ask, what is the partisan break down of that poll? OH! That is right they didn't release it.

[Dark Sage]

It never fails.

Every, I say every time a poll comes out that shows a candidate ahead, someone supporting the guy who is behind accuses it of being skewed.

Never fails.

[Roy Karrde]

It never fails.

Every, I say every time a poll comes out that shows a candidate ahead, someone supporting the guy who is behind accuses it of being skewed.

Never fails.

Just asking, because that key part plays into if the poll reflects anything close to election day. I mean do you honestly expect a D+9 advantage? Or even a D+5? Right now with how down Democrats are, there is a good chance we could see a R +1 or even R +5

[Dark Sage]

Roy, I've provided two seperate polls, both of which show Obama ahead. In fact, the one that Fox News (a place known for being conservative) reported shows him ahead by more than the other one. These two polls were taken independently of each other, and you've accused both of being skewed.

You say that Democrats are depressed and unenthusiastic, but frankly, that is not what I'm hearing, personally. I think that you are in denial, like many GOP voters are.

Can you provide a national poll that shows Romney ahead by the same amount? I'd be willing to look at it.

[Roy Karrde]

Roy, I've provided two seperate polls, both of which show Obama ahead. In fact, the one that Fox News (a place known for being conservative) reported shows him ahead by more than the other one. These two polls were taken independently of each other, and you've accused both of being skewed.

As I said before, I will say it again, you need to realize that Fox News outsources their poll, as such the place being Conservative or Liberal has no baring. Second I am not saying the second poll is skewed I am saying they do not have a partisan break down.

You say that Democrats are depressed and unenthusiastic, but frankly, that is not what I'm hearing, personally. I think that you are in denial, like many GOP voters are.

Really? You have talked to EVERY Democrat in the country? Have you polled Democrats across the country? Didn't think so. Sorry but "What I heard" does not justify you as a polling organization.

Can you provide a national poll that shows Romney ahead by the same amount? I'd be willing to look at it.

I wouldn't be stupid enough to post it before looking through the internals.

[Dark Sage]

Really? You have talked to EVERY Democrat in the country? Have you polled Democrats across the country? Didn't think so. Sorry but "What I heard" does not justify you as a polling organization.

Not every one, but I hear support for Obama on news message boards and chat rooms all the time. The common thread among what they say is that Romney is a liar and a fraud, and that him being President would be much like the Bush Administration.

Whenever a Republican shows up in these places, his attacks on Obama get about a dozen counter-responses, and woe to those who show up wanting him to release his college records.

What's your source, may I ask?