2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

It never fails.

Every, I say every time a poll comes out that shows a candidate ahead, someone supporting the guy who is behind accuses it of being skewed.

Never fails.

[Roy Karrde]

It never fails.

Every, I say every time a poll comes out that shows a candidate ahead, someone supporting the guy who is behind accuses it of being skewed.

Never fails.

Just asking, because that key part plays into if the poll reflects anything close to election day. I mean do you honestly expect a D+9 advantage? Or even a D+5? Right now with how down Democrats are, there is a good chance we could see a R +1 or even R +5

[Dark Sage]

Roy, I've provided two seperate polls, both of which show Obama ahead. In fact, the one that Fox News (a place known for being conservative) reported shows him ahead by more than the other one. These two polls were taken independently of each other, and you've accused both of being skewed.

You say that Democrats are depressed and unenthusiastic, but frankly, that is not what I'm hearing, personally. I think that you are in denial, like many GOP voters are.

Can you provide a national poll that shows Romney ahead by the same amount? I'd be willing to look at it.

[Roy Karrde]

Roy, I've provided two seperate polls, both of which show Obama ahead. In fact, the one that Fox News (a place known for being conservative) reported shows him ahead by more than the other one. These two polls were taken independently of each other, and you've accused both of being skewed.

As I said before, I will say it again, you need to realize that Fox News outsources their poll, as such the place being Conservative or Liberal has no baring. Second I am not saying the second poll is skewed I am saying they do not have a partisan break down.

You say that Democrats are depressed and unenthusiastic, but frankly, that is not what I'm hearing, personally. I think that you are in denial, like many GOP voters are.

Really? You have talked to EVERY Democrat in the country? Have you polled Democrats across the country? Didn't think so. Sorry but "What I heard" does not justify you as a polling organization.

Can you provide a national poll that shows Romney ahead by the same amount? I'd be willing to look at it.

I wouldn't be stupid enough to post it before looking through the internals.

[Dark Sage]

Really? You have talked to EVERY Democrat in the country? Have you polled Democrats across the country? Didn't think so. Sorry but "What I heard" does not justify you as a polling organization.

Not every one, but I hear support for Obama on news message boards and chat rooms all the time. The common thread among what they say is that Romney is a liar and a fraud, and that him being President would be much like the Bush Administration.

Whenever a Republican shows up in these places, his attacks on Obama get about a dozen counter-responses, and woe to those who show up wanting him to release his college records.

What's your source, may I ask?

[Roy Karrde]

Not every one, but I hear support for Obama on news message boards and chat rooms all the time. The common thread among what they say is that Romney is a liar and a fraud, and that him being President would be much like the Bush Administration.

Whenever a Republican shows up in these places, his attacks on Obama get about a dozen counter-responses, and woe to those who show up wanting him to release his college records.

What's your source, may I ask?

So your response is partisan message board users... Yeah...

My source? That would be Gallup

http://www.gallup.com/poll/156194/de...2004-2008.aspx

But hey it is only a widely respected nation polling organization, how can that compete with Message Board Posters!

[Dark Sage]

So you think poll trumps the ones I've provided because, if true, it's good news for Romney. You're basically saying that this poll is better than those polls.

Good one, Roy.

In other news, Gingrich, Cain, Bachmann, and Perry will NOT be speaking at the Convention, as they were not invited to.

Showing that whoever is running it has common sense that is unusual for the GOP. Whether this person will retain this common sense and keep Trump and Palin out of it, remains to be seen.