2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

Here's a view on Romney; not mine, the view of a GOP activist (I use the term loosely):

"He ought to be killing Obama, and he's clearly not doing that," said 32-year-old R.J. Robinson, one of the thousands of activists attending the annual Values Voters Summit this weekend. "He should be doing better."

Amazing. Truly amazing.

Don't most people find it kind of funny that these neo-Republicans (by this I mean the Tea Party) thought that they could choose from Santorum, Bachmann, Gingrich, Cain, Perry, and finally Romney to be president. Choosing finally Romney based upon his electability (in as much as he proved during the debates that he could name the three branches of government and his eyes didn't roll around in his head), to vie against a Constitutional lawyer, who actually now has experience at the job.

Seriously, I find it arrogant and amusing at the same time. If I were a single issue voter, I would not have selected those amazing clown characters to represent my interest.

The GOP think that Obama will fail in the debates because he has to "defend his record". That's all I hear when I bring the issue up. IMOHO, I think that the President has been preparing for that contigency for months, and is just waiting for Romney to confront him on it. Romney, on the other hand, has to defend the fact that he has promised virtually nothing during his whole campaign, running on nothing but the fact that he isn't Obama.

As for Romney... Well, on one hand, he preformed very well in the primary debates, for the most part. On the other hand, he wasn't facing any worthy opponents in those debates.

[Roy Karrde]

The GOP think that Obama will fail in the debates because he has to "defend his record". That's all I hear when I bring the issue up. IMOHO, I think that the President has been preparing for that contigency for months, and is just waiting for Romney to confront him on it.

He can prepare for it, but that does not mean he can properly defend it. And remember that Obama does a terrible job when he is away from his teleprompter crutch. He jumbles his words and thoughts, he filibusters, and he has a terrible time making a concise argument.

Romney, on the other hand, has to defend the fact that he has promised virtually nothing during his whole campaign.

Kind of like what Obama is doing now?

As for Romney... Well, on one hand, he preformed very well in the primary debates, for the most part. On the other hand, he wasn't facing any worthy opponents in those debates.

Newt Gingrich would like a word with you...

BTW CNN confirms that the U.S. was warned 3 days before the attack, you may now accept it as fact.

http://articles.cnn.com/2012-09-15/m...ecurity-detail

[Dark Sage]

Three days before the deadly assault on the United States consulate in Libya, a local security official says he met with American diplomats in the city and warned them about deteriorating security.

Does it say that the State Department or President was among the ones informed?

No.

Did it warn them that an attack was coming?

No. It warned them about the bad state of security.

By the way, I'm sick of the whole "teleprompter thing". EVERY politician uses them. Take a look at a story that sheds some light on this big joke that the GOP is so fond of mocking Obama with:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...ivL_story.html

[Roy Karrde]

Does it say that the State Department or President was among the ones informed?

No.

Did it warn them that an attack was coming?

No. It warned them about the bad state of security.

So... you are saying the diplomats did not forward it onto the state department as is their job? And last time I checked a deteriorating state is a warming of a intimate possible attack. But then again I do not have the wonderful experience the state department has.

[Dark Sage]

The State Department gets dozens of warnings a day, and most are baseless. They wouldn't have time to do their jobs if they had to sound a red alert for each one.

Can you please tell me why this one stood out any more than all the others?

Btw, I suppose if I were to bring up the widely known accusation that Bush had ample warning of the 9/11 attacks, you would call me crazy, right?

[Roy Karrde]

The State Department gets dozens of warnings a day, and most are baseless. They wouldn't have time to do their jobs if they had to sound a red alert for each one.

Can you please tell me why this one stood out any more than all the others?

Btw, I suppose if I were to bring up the widely known accusation that Bush had ample warning of the 9/11 attacks, you would call me crazy, right?

I would say that was a pre 9/11 mindset and this was not.

As for why this stood out? It came directly from their contacts and there is ample evidence that those at the consulate were afraid for their lives. So to compare this to say a simple call in from a prank caller would be wrong.

[Dark Sage]

My supervisor at work was in the Marines, and was stationed in the Middle East.

I told him about your theory the other night, and the State Department's reponse to it, and he agrees with the State Department. He told me that a day in which his CO got less than ten threats on his life or his unit was considered, by the CO, "a slow day".