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    Default Re: 2012 U.S. Presidential Election

    Before I start this off I want everyone to know that it is a lock that Romney will win. The election is over. Period

    The Redskins lost today at home, as stated if the Redskins lose at home, the incumbent loses the election ( If the Incumbent won the popular vote in the previous election ).

    Quote Originally Posted by Plantae View Post
    The auto industry going under is a plausible outcome of Romney's lack of forethought as to what kind of government intervention was required. But I won't disagree that Obama saying that Romney wanted GM to go under is a stretch.
    Well atleast we agree with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Plantae View Post
    Genetic Fallacy.
    Alright lets dive deeper.

    Politifact says this constitute the "Pants on Fire' definition

    Pants on Fire – The statement is not accurate and makes a ridiculous claim.

    Now what does accuracy mean?

    the condition or quality of being true, correct, or exact; freedom from error or defect; precision or exactness; correctness.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/accuracy

    Now Politifact's gripe about Romney's article is that it leaves out information, or "leaves the wrong impression". Neither of those address if what Romney is saying is true or correct.

    Now if Politifact has gotten into judging ads by what it leaves out, or what impression it leaves. And not if it is merely factually correct or not. Then every ad fits into that category, and should be deemed as "Pants on Fire"

    Quote Originally Posted by Plantae View Post
    Revenge can have a negative connotation, but it can also be an essential component of justice. Consider that our modern legal system enacts "vengeance" on criminals. People who think politicians have committed non-criminal, but still significant, wrongs against society should be entitled to this same form of justice.
    Lets look at what Vengeance means.

    "infliction of injury, harm, humiliation, or the like, on a person by another who has been harmed by that person;"

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/vengeance

    By your definition, our Justice System is stacked by those who have been harmed, that there is no semblance of impartiality. That the victims of the crime are the ones who dole out the punishment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Plantae View Post
    Link 1: Since when is racial comedy off-limits? Don't tell the stand-up comedians.
    Lets flip this around, lets say that there have been threats made from Whites to Blacks when it comes to supporting Obama. There have been numerous threats of riots being made. There is even worries the KKK or other extremists may fuel the fires if Obama wins.

    And lets say that Rush Limbaugh came on the air. This is a guy who is a known partisan, known for saying inflammatory things, and has alot on the line when it comes to a Romney win. And with all of these threats happening he says.

    "You know what Blacks, you better vote for Romney, or else White people know where you live."

    Is anyone in their right mind going to say he is joking? That he is not making a racial threat at a time in which racial violence could break out? No one would believe that. So why should we believe Bill Maher was making a joke?

    Quote Originally Posted by Plantae View Post
    Link 2: Hasty Generalization. No doubt similar extremists exist on the other side. Plenty of white folks said they'd lynch Obama if he was elected back in 2008. Thankfully, these types of people are the minority.
    Yeah difference is that when the White Community feels slighted, they usually do not engage in mass rioting and racial vengeance. On the other hand you have... Rodney King
    Last edited by Roy Karrde; 4th November 2012 at 06:27 PM.

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