It wasn't my intention to sound condescending, Zak.

Reading through the thread did give me the impression that you were masking frustration over rejection with discussion, and I apologize for assuming that that's what the thread was ultimately about. I could give an excuse about being jaded over hearing so-called "nice guys" complain about rejection, but that's neither here nor there, so I'll just read through the thread again to get a better grasp on it.

(Or men too, for that matter, just couldn't fit that in the thread title.)
You should definitely consider rewording the thread title. Maybe say "people" instead of women.

Was gonna post this rant in the Moontain (probably with much harsher choice language and less words haha, but apologies in advance if I somehow offend anyone anyway, not really expecting to though) but figured it could actually make a pretty decent serious/reasonable Misc discussion and would much rather prefer Misc-replies anyway, so here goes.
I actually even was considering bringing it up in shazza's 'Approaching' topic, but in hindsight it's better as its own thread.

So this actually has nothing at all to do with me personally or anything that happened, but a general observation I noticed from things like Facebook posts/statuses, blogs, or discussions/gossip I happened to be around/present during (but wasn't really my business).
Yes, not my business indeed and in most cases I have no right to judge, but some of it strikes an angry chord or a faith-lost-in-humanity chord that I can't resist commenting on... and anyway if it's something they're announcing/bragging to the world about in something like a public blog or FB post then technically I have every right to judge.

This paragraph right here is what ultimately made me think that you were masking rejection. Apologies for the assumption; it was wrong of me to do so. Whenever I read or hear "This isn't about me" or similar, I think the opposite. 'specially when it's about approaching women.
So anyway, on to the topic itself:
So we've all seen that thread I was talking about about "approaching women" and general standpoints from nervous/hesitant approachers. Why are they so nervous and hesitant?

Well, perhaps this degrading general standpoint that they may see second-hand from the approachees (as I do) should explain why.
NOT to generalize or anything... but based on some behind-the-back posts/discussions I've been seeing, it would seem that for a lot of girls, whenever they blow off some guy, regardless of how they went about it, seem to get a huge ego rush or power trip from the feeling and somehow let the fact that it happened go to their head. And the more rude or nasty they are about it, whether it's behind their back or to their face, the more satisfaction they get.
The ego-boost probably comes not from being approached by someone or feeling themselves "superior" to that someone, but from actually being empowered enough to say no.
Now, I can totally understand if it's someone who becomes an obnoxious parasite who doesn't take hints and won't leave them alone, possibly even to the point where they feel unsafe, they have every right to complain.
Or if was someone who was blatantly off/awkward in a kind of funny/goofy way, sure I would suppose that merits a good laugh (but not to the extent of demonization).

But, innocent people who act and go about it appropriately and do nothing wrong, and rather than getting a simple "no", even after accepting it they get brutally demonized behind their back (and in some cases, to their face)... that's just not cool, and whenever I see something like that it makes me wish chivalry was dead.
Consider it a defense mechanism designed to ward off douchebags. Unfortunately, you can't tell if someone's a complete douche right off the bat, so you just blow off everyone who approaches you. It sounds unfair, and it really is, but if you give someone an inch, they'll try to take a foot or more.

For instance... there are always a fair share of "so this guy at work was hitting on me..." followed by them calling them a few choice words or talking about how weird they are... and a funny thing is, none of what they say actually implies they did anything inappropriate, and ironically even the only ever description they use during that 'rant' is "he's a nice guy but...". Yeah, okay, you twat, if 'nice' is the only describing word they come up with to fit into that rant, then clearly they are deserving of that demonization.
"He's really nice, but..." is a good enough reason. But really, any reason is reason enough. Obviously, if she was talking about how weird he was, then "nice" wasn't the only descriptive she had to say about him.
And then, posts like these would follow with their girlfriends giving 'calming' replies like "oh, I feel ya", "happens to me too", "I'm sorry you had to deal with that"... sympathetic posts, like they are a victim of something. Like as if it's a situation that requires sympathy.

Then there are other one like "my friend asked me out and I blocked him lolololol"
Why doesn't being made uncomfortable by someone you do or don't know warrant sympathetic responses from your friends?

Here is an example of one that clearly takes the cake (and kind of drove me to make this topic):

Dear Man-Who-Hit-On-Me-This-Evening,
I hope you aren't thinking about my current boyfriend.
Especially because I invented this boyfriend who isn't real to get you to stop hitting on me.
Men who don't even exist are better than you.
xo (name)

And this post was followed by comments like the ones I described above.
What's wrong with this? She was being harassed by someone she didn't like, so she did something about it to get him to stop. As a result, she felt either empowered and wanted to share, or frustrated and wanted to vent.
And believe it or not, I've probably seen at least a dozen posts of that nature from numerous people. I don't know about you, but to me that's disgusting and degrading. Some of you might see people like that as someone with a parasite on her back, but all I see is a stupid stuck-up cunt trying to sound tough and seeking attention. Maybe if they were in high school I could overlook that kind of behavior, but no, these are college undergrads that act like this (at least online).
Just like its reasonable to complain about people that don't get hints, I think people that let it go to their head so far that they feel the need to add a whole extra fuck-you even the first time rather than a simple "no" are just as bad.
If a simple no was all that was needed to dissuade a creeper from hitting on you, then that'd be amazing. And college years, especially, is primetime for being hit on by undesirable men, which is why you see this kind of behavior more frequently.
To be fair I won't deny that men might do it too sometimes, but from my witnessing/experience, the only men I've ever seen act like that are mostly what you'd call "bro"s. As far as girls go, it seems anyone ranging from preps to even those that seem the most down-to-earth might potentially do it.
Guys don't get hit on nearly as often as women do. That's why it appears as though we are more respectful. I'm sure that if I got hit on day after day from girls who wanted nothing more than to jump me and dump me, I'd start being a bit more aggressive with the way I rejected 'em too.

Thankfully I haven't seen it from anyone I'm particularly close with, if I did I would probably call them on it. But really, it's things like that that make me wish FB had an app that let you comment on posts anonymously like news-articles or blogs.

And the biggest irony... I notice that a lot of these same people always ask aloud "why do men have no confidence?" like in shazza's topic.
Gee, I wonder, perhaps if this kind of degrading behavior was exhibited less in their presence, maybe they would be more confident. Perhaps they are afraid of having to hear them add an extra fuck-you, or better yet, be demonized and treated as a monster behind their back, regardless of how polite/formal/respectful they are about it? Maybe they often see posts like that and think "what if it had been me they were talking about?" I know that's what my thoughts are every time I come across one of those. Luckily it doesn't affect my confidence as much as it used to.
/end rant

Whew... alright, done with that. So yeah... thoughts, opinions, etc.[/quote]

If your confidence is shattered when someone rejects you (no matter how heinous their rejection may be), then you just need to buck up and be more confident. Their shitty rejection doesn't have anything to do with you and everything to do with them handling the situation in their own way. You might say it's hard to be confident when everyone is rejecting you, but you can always just fake it.

After awhile of faking it, it'll eventually blend into real confidence and you won't even be able to tell the difference.