2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Roy Karrde]

Let me put it this way, Roy...

Four people are dead because of this.

No, make that eight. There's news that four protesters have been killed in Yemen today.

Now try to justify what he did.

Blame Obama as much as you want for not making the places more secure. He was not what drove the mobs to anger in the first place.

So.. now you are blaming a man thousands of miles away for the deaths of those people, not the mob who killed them, not the preachers who incited them, but a man and his film. His "Art" his "Speech" and it was Speech and Art, did not kill those people, that mob did. Period, Paragraph, End of story.

[Dark Sage]

So.. now you are blaming a man thousands of miles away for the deaths of those people, not the mob who killed them, not the preachers who incited them, but a man and his film. His "Art" his "Speech" and it was Speech and Art, did not kill those people, that mob did. Period, Paragraph, End of story.

Of course I blame them too. And Obama has sworn to bring whoever incited it to justiice, and I hope he does. He made no apologies, like Romney falsely claimed.

But whoever did incite it needed ammunition to rile the crowd, and this was the perfect thing.

[Roy Karrde]

Of course I blame them too. And Obama has sworn to bring whoever incited it to justiice, and I hope he does. He made no apologies, like Romney falsely claimed.

He made no apologies? He said and I repeat “We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others"

That is a apology for the film.

But whoever did incite it needed ammunition to rile the crowd, and this was the perfect thing.

And you know what? Who cares! If it was not this it would be something else. It is not this guy's fault that far too many in the Middle East have the emotional maturity of a twelve year old.

[Dark Sage]

Yeah, well, given Romney's most recent speech, he seems to have been very much subdued by all the backlash he got from what he said.

Yesterday, he was trying to make himself look like a bobcat attacking Obama.

Today... He was a declawed housecat who couldn't even seem to handle a heckler.

[Roy Karrde]

Yeah, well, given Romney's most recent speech, he seems to have been very much subdued by all the backlash he got from what he said.

Yesterday, he was trying to make himself look like a bobcat attacking Obama.

Today... He was a declawed housecat who couldn't even seem to handle a heckler.

You know what? What ever gets the media to focus back on the State Departments failures to defend this home. If Romney takes a more relaxed stance to change the media's focus back on to those who should be fired and held responsible, then more power to him.

Edit: According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...n-8135797.html

If true and the media had even a ounce of sensibility, the Obama Administration would be pounded over this until there was no chance of a second term.

[Dark Sage]

When this story is reported in the New York Times or even The Daily News, rather than a British newspaper that I have never even heard of, then I will deem it true and agree with you.

But not one minute before.

I mean, seriously, not even any members of the Romney camp or ANY Republicans on Capitol Hill have publically mentioned this.

[Roy Karrde]

When this story is reported in the New York Times or even The Daily News, rather than a British newspaper that I have never even heard of, then I will deem it true and agree with you.

But not one minute before.

I have used the Independent before, it's usually a left leaning source, but I will defer to the British members on the credibility of the paper ( However that does not make the story more or less credible )

I mean, seriously, not even any members of the Romney camp or ANY Republicans on Capitol Hill have publically mentioned this.

Usually they get their information as we do, as such it's entirely possible for a news paper to get news before they do.